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| Drew Edmundson wrote: - quote - > Harlan Lunsford <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
And to cinch it, a technical corrections bill by congress.> > Drew Edmundson wrote: > > > The $25,000 limit is per vehicle. So, for example, you can > > > buy two SUVs (assuming they meet the definition of > > > 179(b)(6)(B) and the requirements for business use) then you > > > can deduct $25,000 for each SUV. > > > > > See: > > > > > 179(b)(6)(A) IN GENERAL. --The cost of any sport utility > > > vehicle for any taxable year which may be taken into account > > > under this section shall not exceed $25,000. > > > > > Note the phrase is "any sport utility vehicle" not "all > > > sports utility vehicles." > > This is most interesting. IOW, you're saying that the > > phrase "any sport utility vehicle" means in effect "each"? > > > I don't think that'll fly when instructions for the 4562 for > > vehicles bought after that certain enactment date come out. > > We'll see. > Yes, that is the way I am reading it. If we read "any" as > "all" then it would seem logical to read "any" that way > before the word "year." So are you saying that the limit is > $25,000 for SUV's for the life of 179(b)(6)(A)? Of course > not. > I guess we will have to wait and see as the committee > reports, BNA and CCH are no help on this matter. But probably not before next year after confusion has made it "Verrrry Interesting!" (Arte Johnson) ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Harlan Lunsford <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Drew Edmundson wrote:
Yes, that is the way I am reading it. If we read "any" as> > The $25,000 limit is per vehicle. So, for example, you can > > buy two SUVs (assuming they meet the definition of > > 179(b)(6)(B) and the requirements for business use) then you > > can deduct $25,000 for each SUV. > > > See: > > > 179(b)(6)(A) IN GENERAL. --The cost of any sport utility > > vehicle for any taxable year which may be taken into account > > under this section shall not exceed $25,000. > > > Note the phrase is "any sport utility vehicle" not "all > > sports utility vehicles." > This is most interesting. IOW, you're saying that the > phrase "any sport utility vehicle" means in effect "each"? > I don't think that'll fly when instructions for the 4562 for > vehicles bought after that certain enactment date come out. > We'll see. "all" then it would seem logical to read "any" that way before the word "year." So are you saying that the limit is $25,000 for SUV's for the life of 179(b)(6)(A)? Of course not. I guess we will have to wait and see as the committee reports, BNA and CCH are no help on this matter. -- Drew Edmundson << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Drew Edmundson wrote:
I'm with Drew on this one. Certainly it would have been> > The $25,000 limit is per vehicle. So, for example, you can > > buy two SUVs (assuming they meet the definition of > > 179(b)(6)(B) and the requirements for business use) then you > > can deduct $25,000 for each SUV. > > > See: > > > 179(b)(6)(A) IN GENERAL. --The cost of any sport utility > > vehicle for any taxable year which may be taken into account > > under this section shall not exceed $25,000. > > > Note the phrase is "any sport utility vehicle" not "all > > sports utility vehicles." > This is most interesting. IOW, you're saying that the > phrase "any sport utility vehicle" means in effect "each"? > I don't think that'll fly when instructions for the 4562 for > vehicles bought after that certain enactment date come out. > We'll see. written as "all" if that was the intent. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Drew Edmundson wrote: - quote - > The $25,000 limit is per vehicle. So, for example, you can
This is most interesting. IOW, you're saying that the> buy two SUVs (assuming they meet the definition of > 179(b)(6)(B) and the requirements for business use) then you > can deduct $25,000 for each SUV. > See: > 179(b)(6)(A) IN GENERAL. --The cost of any sport utility > vehicle for any taxable year which may be taken into account > under this section shall not exceed $25,000. > Note the phrase is "any sport utility vehicle" not "all > sports utility vehicles." phrase "any sport utility vehicle" means in effect "each"? I don't think that'll fly when instructions for the 4562 for vehicles bought after that certain enactment date come out. We'll see. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:18:13 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| John Smith <theavatar007[at]earthlink.net> wrote: - quote - > Is the new $25,000 cap on the Sec. 179 deduction vehicle
The $25,000 limit is per vehicle. So, for example, you can> specific? > In other words, could I purchase two SUVs over 6000 lbs, use > both of them for business purposes, and then deduct a total > of $50000 -- $25000 for each vehicle? Or is it $25000 total > deduction per business? buy two SUVs (assuming they meet the definition of 179(b)(6)(B) and the requirements for business use) then you can deduct $25,000 for each SUV. See: 179(b)(6)(A) IN GENERAL. --The cost of any sport utility vehicle for any taxable year which may be taken into account under this section shall not exceed $25,000. Note the phrase is "any sport utility vehicle" not "all sports utility vehicles." Also some vehicles over 6,000 lbs and no more than 14,000 lbs are exempt from this limit. See 179(b)(6)(B)(ii) - CERTAIN VEHICLES EXCLUDED. --Such term does not include any vehicle which -- (I) is designed to have a seating capacity of more than 9 persons behind the driver's seat, (II) is equipped with a cargo area of at least 6 feet in interior length which is an open area or is designed for use as an open area but is enclosed by a cap and is not readily accessible directly from the passenger compartment, or (III) has an integral enclosure, fully enclosing the driver compartment and load carrying device, does not have seating rearward of the driver's seat, and has no body section protruding more than 30 inches ahead of the leading edge of the windshield. II should exempt most (perhaps all) pickups. -- Drew Edmundson << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| John Smith <theavatar007[at]earthlink.net> wrote: - quote - > Is the new $25,000 cap on the Sec. 179 deduction vehicle
$25000 max no matter how many SUV's you buy. However, if> specific? > In other words, could I purchase two SUVs over 6000 lbs, use > both of them for business purposes, and then deduct a total > of $50000 -- $25000 for each vehicle? Or is it $25000 total > deduction per business? your business also purchased equipment for $75000 you can write off the equipment and SUV for a total Sec 179 deduction of $100,000. R.A. Moore, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| John Smith wrote: - quote - > Is the new $25,000 cap on the Sec. 179 deduction vehicle
Perhaps you omitted a lot of information, but basically the> specific? > In other words, could I purchase two SUVs over 6000 lbs, use > both of them for business purposes, and then deduct a total > of $50000 -- $25000 for each vehicle? Or is it $25000 total > deduction per business? 179 deduction is "owner" specific, i.e. to a person, whether that person be individual, husband and wife (joint return) or a corporation. Don't forget also, in case you're a proprietor, you must allocate between business and personal use of the vehicle(s). ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Thu, 4 Nov 2004 10:16:12 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "John Smith" <theavatar007[at]earthlink.net> wrote - quote - > Is the new $25,000 cap on the Sec. 179 deduction vehicle
I haven't seen the new law in detail, but Section 179 is> specific? > In other words, could I purchase two SUVs over 6000 lbs, use > both of them for business purposes, and then deduct a total > of $50000 -- $25000 for each vehicle? Or is it $25000 total > deduction per business? limited "per taxpayer", so I suspect the $25K is a "per taxpayer" limit, not a per vehicle limit. That could mean that an "S" corporation you own 100% can take $25K, and an LLC you own 100% can take $25K, but ~you~ can only take $25K as it is limited per taxpayer. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia taxman at negia.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Is the new $25,000 cap on the Sec. 179 deduction vehicle specific? In other words, could I purchase two SUVs over 6000 lbs, use both of them for business purposes, and then deduct a total of $50000 -- $25000 for each vehicle? Or is it $25000 total deduction per business? Thanks << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |