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Moral of the story is Do NOT cordon off one room and> > may or may not end out having office space with the company > > but either way I will end out working at home a great deal > > more. > > > Can I deduct the incremental fuel oil and electricity costs > > that will go with being at home more as a direct cost based > > on a reasonable estimate? > > > At this point, I am not talking about what it would look > > like if I set up separate, segregated office space with a > > separate entrance and all of that (in other words a true > > home office by IRS standards). I am just interested in > > knowing whether I can just do a direct charge to the > > business for those extra costs because they are clearly only > > a result of the business since I otherwise would not be here > > during the day and would not have those incremental costs. > If you have qualified business use of your home and enough > gross income from that business use to that entitle you to a > depreciation deduction, you are required to reduce your > basis in the home by the amount of depreciation allowed > (deducted) or allowable (could have been deducted). > Whether you choose to deduct the depreciation on your > current return(s) will not matter. For tax purposes, you > will still be treated as if you had taken the allowable > deduction, and your basis will have to be reduced. For more > information, refer to Publication 946, How to Depreciate > Property, Publication 544, Sales and Other Dispositions of > Assets, and Publication 587, Business Use of Your Home. dedicate it solely as an office in home, therefore you will NOT have office in home expenses, and will NOT have to recoup depreciation when you sell your house. Unless, of course, you're talking about BIG BUCKS! ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| downeaster1000[at]yahoo.com (Winter) wrote: - quote - > I have just started working as an independent sales agent. I
I may be wrong, because you didn't give a lot of relevant> may or may not end out having office space with the company > but either way I will end out working at home a great deal > more. > Can I deduct the incremental fuel oil and electricity costs > that will go with being at home more as a direct cost based > on a reasonable estimate? > At this point, I am not talking about what it would look > like if I set up separate, segregated office space with a > separate entrance and all of that (in other words a true > home office by IRS standards). I am just interested in > knowing whether I can just do a direct charge to the > business for those extra costs because they are clearly only > a result of the business since I otherwise would not be here > during the day and would not have those incremental costs. facts, but it does not appear from what you write that you will have (or even mean to have) a qualified home office. And if you do not have a qualified home office, you will have no deduction for expenses you incur by staying home to work. Not some deduction for what you think your additional expenses are, but no deduction at all. You can read the details in IRS Pub. 587, "Business Use of Your Home". You need a space that is segregated (doesn't need to be in a separate structure or have a separate entrance, just needs to be clearly set apart) and used exclusively as your principal place of business. This means it has to be the only fixed location where you do managerial or administrative tasks, or you regularly meet with customers there, or it is a separate structure. And it means that you can do nothing else in that space. (There are exceptions for storing inventory or operating a day-care center that probably don't matter to you.) Finally, if you are an employee, your home office needs to be for the convenience of your employer (a letter from your employer stating that you are expected to conduct certain business activities at home is a good way to cover this). If you do have a home office, you then allocate expenses to it. Utilities that you pay for the house as a whole are treated as indirect expenses. You need to, in some reasonable way, allocate part of those utilities to the part of your house that is a home office. The most common way is to go by square footage. If you use 200 sf of a 2000-sf house for a home office, 10% of most utilities are attributable to the home office. -- Chris Green << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I have just started working as an independent sales agent. I
If you have qualified business use of your home and enough> may or may not end out having office space with the company > but either way I will end out working at home a great deal > more. > Can I deduct the incremental fuel oil and electricity costs > that will go with being at home more as a direct cost based > on a reasonable estimate? > At this point, I am not talking about what it would look > like if I set up separate, segregated office space with a > separate entrance and all of that (in other words a true > home office by IRS standards). I am just interested in > knowing whether I can just do a direct charge to the > business for those extra costs because they are clearly only > a result of the business since I otherwise would not be here > during the day and would not have those incremental costs. gross income from that business use to that entitle you to a depreciation deduction, you are required to reduce your basis in the home by the amount of depreciation allowed (deducted) or allowable (could have been deducted). Whether you choose to deduct the depreciation on your current return(s) will not matter. For tax purposes, you will still be treated as if you had taken the allowable deduction, and your basis will have to be reduced. For more information, refer to Publication 946, How to Depreciate Property, Publication 544, Sales and Other Dispositions of Assets, and Publication 587, Business Use of Your Home. You may download the references at http://www.irs.gov "Jack" - John H. Fisher - TaxService[at]aol.com Philadelphia, Pa - Atlantic City, NJ - West Wildwood, NJ My Newsgroups & Boards at: http://members.aol.com/TaxService/index.html Where Ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise!= ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Winter wrote: - quote - > I have just started working as an independent sales agent. I
No.> may or may not end out having office space with the company > but either way I will end out working at home a great deal > more. > Can I deduct the incremental fuel oil and electricity costs > that will go with being at home more as a direct cost based > on a reasonable estimate? - quote - > At this point, I am not talking about what it would look
A separate entrance is NOT required. Only that the room (or> like if I set up separate, segregated office space with a > separate entrance and all of that (in other words a true > home office by IRS standards). marked off section of the room) be used EXCLUSIVELY for your business -- and that, if you DO have office space at the company, you must meet clients there. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Winter" <downeaster1000[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > I have just started working as an independent sales agent. I
You must take office-in-home deductions or none at all.> may or may not end out having office space with the company > but either way I will end out working at home a great deal > more. > Can I deduct the incremental fuel oil and electricity costs > that will go with being at home more as a direct cost based > on a reasonable estimate? > At this point, I am not talking about what it would look > like if I set up separate, segregated office space with a > separate entrance and all of that (in other words a true > home office by IRS standards). I am just interested in > knowing whether I can just do a direct charge to the > business for those extra costs because they are clearly only > a result of the business since I otherwise would not be here > during the day and would not have those incremental costs. This incremental costs you refer to do not apply. Wayne Brasch, CPA, M. S. Taxation << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I have just started working as an independent sales agent. I may or may not end out having office space with the company but either way I will end out working at home a great deal more. Can I deduct the incremental fuel oil and electricity costs that will go with being at home more as a direct cost based on a reasonable estimate? At this point, I am not talking about what it would look like if I set up separate, segregated office space with a separate entrance and all of that (in other words a true home office by IRS standards). I am just interested in knowing whether I can just do a direct charge to the business for those extra costs because they are clearly only a result of the business since I otherwise would not be here during the day and would not have those incremental costs. Thank you. Winter << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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