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| riaric wrote: - quote - > A.G. Kalman wrote:
The way the law is written, an exception to the residency,> > riaric wrote: > > > I understand the tax credit and we will be taking that for > > > this year but what I am wondering about is the dependency > > > for a boy that we adopted from Russia on August 20th. Of > > > the 5 "rules" listed below we meet 4 of the 5. The question > > > is on the providing more than half of the support. We have > > > no clue of what the Russian orphanage provided for support. > > > We can calculate our side and it will be significant. Any > > > ideas on what we can do here or where to look for resources > > > on this? Web searches have not yielded much. > > > > > Who is a Dependent? > > > > > According to the IRS, a dependent is a person who meets all > > > five of the following criteria: > > > > > 1. The person is a member of your household, or related to you. > > > 2. You provide at least half of the person?s support. > > > 3. The person?s gross income is less than $3,050. > > > 4. The person must not have filed a joint return, except > > > in certain circumstances. > > > 5. The person must be a U.S. citizen or resident. > > > > > Basically, you can claim the person as a dependent if 1) the > > > person is a relative and 2) you provided more than half of > > > the person?s support and 3) the person didn?t make too much > > > money on his or her own. > > > > > But, because the IRS rules are incredibly complicated, you > > > need to take a very detailed look at each of these tests, to > > > make sure that the person really counts as a dependent. > > > Remember: this is a Pass/Fail situation. If the person > > > doesn?t pass all these tests, the IRS will not allow you to > > > claim him or her as a dependent. > > There are some special rules for legally adopted children > > for tax year 2004. A legally adopted child will be > > considered your child under the relationship test as long as > > the child was placed with you by an authorized placement > > agency (any person or court authorized under state law). > > Even if you get by the relationship test, you appear to fail > > the citizenship or resident test. Assuming that the child > > was not a US citizen or resident of the US, Canada or Mexico > > (you said Russia), then an adopted child must be present in > > your household for the whole tax year to qualify as your > > dependent. > I am not sure that I follow the logic on citizenship test. > Since we went to court in Russia and had an IR-3 visa. The > minute we passed through immigration in the U.S. (September > 13) the child became a U.S. citizen. This was a law that was > passed a few years ago and is nice. I think the real > question is on support but I don't mind enlightenment on all > points. citizen test exists for an adopted child. Normally, the person only has to be a resident or citizen for part of the tax year. However, if you adopt an alien child, then that child would have to be a resident/citizen for the entire year. I have no idea why this exception is in the law, but it is! See IRS Regulation Sec. 1.152-2 -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A.G. Kalman wrote: - quote - > riaric wrote:
I am not sure that I follow the logic on citizenship test.> > I understand the tax credit and we will be taking that for > > this year but what I am wondering about is the dependency > > for a boy that we adopted from Russia on August 20th. Of > > the 5 "rules" listed below we meet 4 of the 5. The question > > is on the providing more than half of the support. We have > > no clue of what the Russian orphanage provided for support. > > We can calculate our side and it will be significant. Any > > ideas on what we can do here or where to look for resources > > on this? Web searches have not yielded much. > > > Who is a Dependent? > > > According to the IRS, a dependent is a person who meets all > > five of the following criteria: > > > 1. The person is a member of your household, or related to you. > > 2. You provide at least half of the person?s support. > > 3. The person?s gross income is less than $3,050. > > 4. The person must not have filed a joint return, except > > in certain circumstances. > > 5. The person must be a U.S. citizen or resident. > > > Basically, you can claim the person as a dependent if 1) the > > person is a relative and 2) you provided more than half of > > the person?s support and 3) the person didn?t make too much > > money on his or her own. > > > But, because the IRS rules are incredibly complicated, you > > need to take a very detailed look at each of these tests, to > > make sure that the person really counts as a dependent. > > Remember: this is a Pass/Fail situation. If the person > > doesn?t pass all these tests, the IRS will not allow you to > > claim him or her as a dependent. > There are some special rules for legally adopted children > for tax year 2004. A legally adopted child will be > considered your child under the relationship test as long as > the child was placed with you by an authorized placement > agency (any person or court authorized under state law). > Even if you get by the relationship test, you appear to fail > the citizenship or resident test. Assuming that the child > was not a US citizen or resident of the US, Canada or Mexico > (you said Russia), then an adopted child must be present in > your household for the whole tax year to qualify as your > dependent. Since we went to court in Russia and had an IR-3 visa. The minute we passed through immigration in the U.S. (September 13) the child became a U.S. citizen. This was a law that was passed a few years ago and is nice. I think the real question is on support but I don't mind enlightenment on all points. Regards, Brian << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| riaric wrote: - quote - > I understand the tax credit and we will be taking that for
There are some special rules for legally adopted children> this year but what I am wondering about is the dependency > for a boy that we adopted from Russia on August 20th. Of > the 5 "rules" listed below we meet 4 of the 5. The question > is on the providing more than half of the support. We have > no clue of what the Russian orphanage provided for support. > We can calculate our side and it will be significant. Any > ideas on what we can do here or where to look for resources > on this? Web searches have not yielded much. > Thanks much, > Brian > Who is a Dependent? > According to the IRS, a dependent is a person who meets all > five of the following criteria: > 1. The person is a member of your household, or related to you. > 2. You provide at least half of the person?s support. > 3. The person?s gross income is less than $3,050. > 4. The person must not have filed a joint return, except > in certain circumstances. > 5. The person must be a U.S. citizen or resident. > Basically, you can claim the person as a dependent if 1) the > person is a relative and 2) you provided more than half of > the person?s support and 3) the person didn?t make too much > money on his or her own. > But, because the IRS rules are incredibly complicated, you > need to take a very detailed look at each of these tests, to > make sure that the person really counts as a dependent. > Remember: this is a Pass/Fail situation. If the person > doesn?t pass all these tests, the IRS will not allow you to > claim him or her as a dependent. for tax year 2004. A legally adopted child will be considered your child under the relationship test as long as the child was placed with you by an authorized placement agency (any person or court authorized under state law). Even if you get by the relationship test, you appear to fail the citizenship or resident test. Assuming that the child was not a US citizen or resident of the US, Canada or Mexico (you said Russia), then an adopted child must be present in your household for the whole tax year to qualify as your dependent. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I understand the tax credit and we will be taking that for this year but what I am wondering about is the dependency for a boy that we adopted from Russia on August 20th. Of the 5 "rules" listed below we meet 4 of the 5. The question is on the providing more than half of the support. We have no clue of what the Russian orphanage provided for support. We can calculate our side and it will be significant. Any ideas on what we can do here or where to look for resources on this? Web searches have not yielded much. Thanks much, Brian Who is a Dependent? According to the IRS, a dependent is a person who meets all five of the following criteria: 1. The person is a member of your household, or related to you. 2. You provide at least half of the person?s support. 3. The person?s gross income is less than $3,050. 4. The person must not have filed a joint return, except in certain circumstances. 5. The person must be a U.S. citizen or resident. Basically, you can claim the person as a dependent if 1) the person is a relative and 2) you provided more than half of the person?s support and 3) the person didn?t make too much money on his or her own. But, because the IRS rules are incredibly complicated, you need to take a very detailed look at each of these tests, to make sure that the person really counts as a dependent. Remember: this is a Pass/Fail situation. If the person doesn?t pass all these tests, the IRS will not allow you to claim him or her as a dependent. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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