"Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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In 1955 I was not even a smile on my ma or dads face. They
met in '56 and married in '57.

<BG
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Mark Rigotti

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Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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Let me guess: BIR and not IRS?

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Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH

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Mark Rigotti, CPA wrote:
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Anybody need 1955 tables? For sale. Good price. Accurate.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:03:32

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"Joan Kaapke" <joan_kaapke[at]nosyahoo.com> wrote:

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Monday, November 08, 2004
IRS Sales Tax Tables May Offer Lower Deductions Than Expected

Tables that the IRS is developing to implement the new sales
tax deduction enacted under the export tax law will likely
provide smaller values than expected, reducing the
likelihood that those in states with income taxes will take
the deduction, congressional sources say. The tables will
probably provide values that seem low in light of the
provision's cost of about $5 billion over two years, the
sources say. Both the JCT and CRS have estimated the cost of
the sales tax deduction at between $4.5 billion and $5
billion. The tables will provide the only likely means of
taking the deduction for 2004, given that it was enacted
late in the year and taxpayers probably have not been saving
receipts to support a greater deduction.

Milt Baker CPA Michigan


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Boy, you guys are making feel like a baby!
I only go back to 1991.

Kate, EA in PA

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Frederick Jorden wrote:

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According to the current issue of the Kiplinger Tax Letter
(a fairly reliable source on beltway scuttlebutt), the IRS
plans to release tables in mid-December. We'll see... <g
My state (WA) DOR has acknowledged the new deduction but
defers to the IRS site for additional information. So, I'm
not expecting to see any locally generated tables here.

If all else fails, I will probably use the Texas table and
adjust it upward for our slightly higher rate.

MTW

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"Tom Healy" <thealycpa1[at]aol.com> wrote:

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Tom,

Now you're dating yourself. Unfortunately, I've got you
beat. I've got '78 on my shelf.

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Mark Rigotti

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Harlan Lunsford wrote:
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I'm about 95% sure that the IRS has said that they will have
the sales tax tables available. The only adjustment allowed
by the taxpayer is the addition of motor vehicle and/or boat
sales tax plus any adjustment for local sales tax. E.g.,
the state tax in CA is 6.25%. LA County tax is 8.25%.
Taxpayers in LA County could add another 32% to the table
amount.

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Alan
http://taxtopics.net

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"Frederick Jorden" <knowtax[at]bigfoot.com> wrote:
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I found a pending sales tax table for the state of Texas at
www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/deduction04/
The source for this table is Carole Keeton Strayhorn, Texas
Comptroller. I hope this will be helpful to those residents
of Texas. I assume they will have a final table by the end
of January or February.

Joan

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I found them in the 1985 Package X (yes, I still have those
going back to when I first started in 1979).

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Frederick Jorden wrote:

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Texas appears to have done just such a thing, albeit as
part of the lobbying to get a sales tax deduction:
http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/deduction04/

Phoebe

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Harlan Lunsford wrote:
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I did not presume that states would jump to conformity but
that they would as a service to their citizens provide a
table that would help in the preparation of the 1040.

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7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247
EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com
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And their motivation for telling the people how much is
costs to live in their fair state is ... ?

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Don EA in Upstate NY

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Frederick Jorden wrote:

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And that of course is exactly what I'll do, dust off the old
tables, but surely IRS can and will react in time.

Hmm, wonder how much I can sell copies of those old tables
for? anybody need them? After all, somebody photocopies an
old 1913 1040 form (whatever it was called then) and made a
mint hawking to accountants to hang on the wall.

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Not too hopeful on this point. Not even sure if Alabama
will even pass legislation conforming to federal in this
area. and even Georgia might not conform.

It's going to be an interesting tax season, I think.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
Mon, 1 Nov 2004 16:22:46

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Herb Smith <smithff33[at]aol.com> wrote:
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The income they were based on was in 1985 dollars, too.

I'd make the argument that those are the most recent tables
published by the IRS for this purpose. If the IRS thinks
they're obsolete, it can publish new ones at any time.

Seth

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Harlan Lunsford wrote:

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FAIR is a four letter word starting with an "F". :-)

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Harlan Lunsford wrote:
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But if the IRS fails to provide the required tables by the
due date of the return the taxpayer may have no choice but
to guestimate the deduction by judicious application of the
old tables.

Now the individual states could prepare tables for their
taxpayers. They in fact may have a much better handle on how
much their taxpayers pay in sales taxes.

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7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247
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Seth Breidbart wrote:
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It may be a little more complicated than that. first place,
those charts were constructed based on AGI's common to the
1970's and early 1980's. Over a certain amount one would
make an added adjustment, and not just pro rata, either as I
recall.

Secondly, some states have modified what is and is not
taxable Example is Georgia which does not taxes groceries
these days. Prepared foods yes, but staples, no. So the
Georgia chart would need to be shaved a wee bit to adjust
for this. Some states don't tax prescription drugs, so
resumably they would also get a shave. After ALL; we have
to be fair, don't we? grin

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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sethb[at]panix.com (Seth Breidbart) wrote:
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Assuming you could find the charts/tables, they would be in
1985 dollars. You sure you want to do that?

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Seth Breidbart wrote:
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1) The sales tax rate may have changed since 1986.
2) Cost of living and other adjustments may make the
amounts "wrong" for today.

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