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| Linda Dorfmont <DORFMONT[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > I think the fact that another company is using the former
No; companies change symbols all the time without going> trading symbol of the "worthless" company might be an > indicator that it is truly worthless. bankrupt, so the fact that one previous symbol is being re-used doesn't imply anything. Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Linda Dorfmont <DORFMONT[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > I think the fact that another company is using the former
Not so.> trading symbol of the "worthless" company might be an > indicator that it is truly worthless. It just mean the symbol is no longer being used on the exchange for the former company. Interesting example, but there are countless others: The F W Woolworth Company went through hard times, and tarnished its stock symbol: Z As part of its new makeover, it became Venator (sp?) and later changed to Foot Locker Inc (FL) but still survives. One which might not survive is USAir formerly stock symbol U, and when banished off the NYSE, changed its symbol to UAIR and when kicked off the NASDAQ-NMS, sought refuge in the bulletin board system as UAIRQ.OB and one day might indeed become utterly worthless, but so far clings to life. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > > I was holding stock of a bankrupt company which traded in
After I sent this, I realized that what I meant to say was> > > pink sheet for $0.0001/share. Recently i sold it. Company > > > went bankrupt about 6 years ago. Will it be called a > > > worthless stock in IRS definition even if it was being > > > traded in stock market? May I claim loss from my income this > > > year for this sale? > > The fact that it was trading, even at $0.0001 means it was > > not worthless according to the IRS definition. However, > > since you sold the stock this year, you can claim your loss > > this year. > A small nitpick. There is no formal IRS definition of a > worthless stock (no code, no reg, no rev. ruling that I'm > aware of). I would argue that the mere fact that a stock is > trading is not enough to say it fails the "definition." This > stock was selling at .0001 (one one-hundredth of a cent). I > would argue that if this person owned less than 100 shares, > the stock was worthless as it's value was less than the > smallest currency value of one cent. that there was no document that defined the term "recognizable value." The Sec. 165 regs and court decisions define worthless stock. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I think the fact that another company is using the former trading symbol of the "worthless" company might be an indicator that it is truly worthless. Linda Dorfmont E.A., CFP, CSA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| BKS wrote: - quote - > I was holding stock of a bankrupt company which traded in
If you sold it, it wasn't worthless. However, you MUST> pink sheet for $0.0001/share. Recently i sold it. Company > went bankrupt about 6 years ago. Will it be called a > worthless stock in IRS definition even if it was being > traded in stock market? May I claim loss from my income this > year for this sale? report your loss this year. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > I was holding stock of a bankrupt company which traded in
A small nitpick. There is no formal IRS definition of a> > pink sheet for $0.0001/share. Recently i sold it. Company > > went bankrupt about 6 years ago. Will it be called a > > worthless stock in IRS definition even if it was being > > traded in stock market? May I claim loss from my income this > > year for this sale? > The fact that it was trading, even at $0.0001 means it was > not worthless according to the IRS definition. However, > since you sold the stock this year, you can claim your loss > this year. worthless stock (no code, no reg, no rev. ruling that I'm aware of). I would argue that the mere fact that a stock is trading is not enough to say it fails the "definition." This stock was selling at .0001 (one one-hundredth of a cent). I would argue that if this person owned less than 100 shares, the stock was worthless as it's value was less than the smallest currency value of one cent. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| shamailbox-silver[at]yahoo.com (BKS) wrote: - quote - > I was holding stock of a bankrupt company which traded in
No, it's not worthless. Worthless means quite literally> pink sheet for $0.0001/share. Recently i sold it. Company > went bankrupt about 6 years ago. Will it be called a > worthless stock in IRS definition even if it was being > traded in stock market? May I claim loss from my income this > year for this sale? worthless, not almost worthless. But if you sold it this year, you can take the loss this year. -- Chris Green << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| BKS wrote: - quote - > I was holding stock of a bankrupt company which traded in
No.> pink sheet for $0.0001/share. Recently i sold it. Company > went bankrupt about 6 years ago. Will it be called a > worthless stock in IRS definition even if it was being > traded in stock market? - quote - > May I claim loss from my income this
Yes-- assuming you paid less for it than you received.> year for this sale? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| BKS wrote: - quote - > I was holding stock of a bankrupt company which traded in
Answers to your questions are "No" and "Yes" respectively.> pink sheet for $0.0001/share. Recently i sold it. Company > went bankrupt about 6 years ago. Will it be called a > worthless stock in IRS definition even if it was being > traded in stock market? May I claim loss from my income this > year for this sale? If it's trading, it's not worthless. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "BKS" <ashamailbox-silver[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > I was holding stock of a bankrupt company which traded in
If its being traded, it's not worthless. If you sold it,> pink sheet for $0.0001/share. Recently i sold it. Company > went bankrupt about 6 years ago. Will it be called a > worthless stock in IRS definition even if it was being > traded in stock market? May I claim loss from my income this > year for this sale? how can you take a worthless stock deduction? -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I was holding stock of a bankrupt company which traded in
NO!!! If the stock sold for a penny, it was not worthless.> pink sheet for $0.0001/share. Recently i sold it. Company > went bankrupt about 6 years ago. Will it be called a > worthless stock in IRS definition even if it was being > traded in stock market? May I claim loss from my income this > year for this sale? Golly, I remember the time when I could buy a pound of tomatoes for a penny (sometimes less)!!!= That was REALVALUE although it may have seemed expensive at the time!!!= ![]() "Jack" - John H. Fisher - TaxService[at]aol.com Philadelphia, Pa - Atlantic City, NJ - West Wildwood, NJ My Newsgroups & Boards at: http://members.aol.com/TaxService/index.html Where Ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise!= ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| bashamailbox-silver[at]yahoo.com (BKS) writes: - quote - > I was holding stock of a bankrupt company which traded in
No> pink sheet for $0.0001/share. Recently i sold it. Company > went bankrupt about 6 years ago. Will it be called a > worthless stock in IRS definition even if it was being > traded in stock market? - quote - > May I claim loss from my income this year for this sale?
YesPhil Marti Clarksburg, MD << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I was holding stock of a bankrupt company which traded in
The fact that it was trading, even at $0.0001 means it was> pink sheet for $0.0001/share. Recently i sold it. Company > went bankrupt about 6 years ago. Will it be called a > worthless stock in IRS definition even if it was being > traded in stock market? May I claim loss from my income this > year for this sale? not worthless according to the IRS definition. However, since you sold the stock this year, you can claim your loss this year. Ira Smilovitz << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I was holding stock of a bankrupt company which traded in pink sheet for $0.0001/share. Recently i sold it. Company went bankrupt about 6 years ago. Will it be called a worthless stock in IRS definition even if it was being traded in stock market? May I claim loss from my income this year for this sale? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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