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Old 10-23-2004, 09:50 PM
Christopher Green
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Default Re: How do you deal with expenses that effect more than one year?

Gary Goodman <XgaryXg7X[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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> dfm2a3l0t2[at]spymac.com says...
> > "Doc" <docsavage20[at]REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:


> > > I recently opened a small business (sole proprietorship)
> > > which involves distributing homemade novelty CD's. There are
> > > certain expenses such as mailers, CD roms, jewel cases,
> > > labeling materials etc. that get used over the course of
> > > time. So even if you get income in '04, you could be using
> > > packaging, CD rom, mailing label, etc. that was bought in
> > > '03.
> > > > > How would you treat something like this?


> > Unless you are an accrual-basis taxpayer (if you don't know
> > what that is, you aren't one), you deduct the expenses on
> > the return for the tax year in which you paid them. It
> > doesn't matter when you actually _use_ the items.
> > > You report the income in the year in which you actually

> > receive it.


> Even if the original poster doesn't know if he/she is on the
> accrual basis, he/she may be on it. Afterall, having
> inventory tends to push people into accrual basis.


There's an exception generally applicable to businesses
grossing less than $1 million. These businesses may be on a
cash basis but still use an accrual-like scheme for
inventory. AFAIK, no kind of business can treat expenses to
acquire inventory as if they were cash-basis expenses; even
cash-basis businesses have to account for inventory or treat
inventory as if it were non-incidental supplies (i.e. you
expense it as it's used up).

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Chris Green

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Old 10-22-2004, 07:42 AM
Gary Goodman
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Default Re: How do you deal with expenses that effect more than one year?

dfm2a3l0t2[at]spymac.com says...
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> "Doc" <docsavage20[at]REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:

> > I recently opened a small business (sole proprietorship)
> > which involves distributing homemade novelty CD's. There are
> > certain expenses such as mailers, CD roms, jewel cases,
> > labeling materials etc. that get used over the course of
> > time. So even if you get income in '04, you could be using
> > packaging, CD rom, mailing label, etc. that was bought in
> > '03.
> > > How would you treat something like this?


> Unless you are an accrual-basis taxpayer (if you don't know
> what that is, you aren't one), you deduct the expenses on
> the return for the tax year in which you paid them. It
> doesn't matter when you actually _use_ the items.
> You report the income in the year in which you actually
> receive it.


Even if the original poster doesn't know if he/she is on the
accrual basis, he/she may be on it. Afterall, having
inventory tends to push people into accrual basis.

Gary

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Old 10-18-2004, 05:16 AM
D. Stussy
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Default Re: How do you deal with expenses that effect more than one year?

Doc wrote:

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> I recently opened a small business (sole proprietorship)
> which involves distributing homemade novelty CD's. There are
> certain expenses such as mailers, CD roms, jewel cases,
> labeling materials etc. that get used over the course of
> time. So even if you get income in '04, you could be using
> packaging, CD rom, mailing label, etc. that was bought in
> '03.
> How would you treat something like this?


Inventory costs, or expenses. It depends on whether you
package the CDs as they are ordered or have them
pre-packaged.

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Old 10-18-2004, 04:57 AM
D.F. Manno
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Default Re: How do you deal with expenses that effect more than one year?

"Doc" <docsavage20[at]REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:

- quote -

> I recently opened a small business (sole proprietorship)
> which involves distributing homemade novelty CD's. There are
> certain expenses such as mailers, CD roms, jewel cases,
> labeling materials etc. that get used over the course of
> time. So even if you get income in '04, you could be using
> packaging, CD rom, mailing label, etc. that was bought in
> '03.
> How would you treat something like this?


Unless you are an accrual-basis taxpayer (if you don't know
what that is, you aren't one), you deduct the expenses on
the return for the tax year in which you paid them. It
doesn't matter when you actually _use_ the items.

You report the income in the year in which you actually
receive it.

--
D.F. Manno
dfm2a3l0t2[at]spymac.com
The average man doesn't want to be free. He simply wants to be safe.
(H.L. Mencken)

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Old 10-18-2004, 04:38 AM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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Default Re: How do you deal with expenses that effect more than one year?

"Doc" <docsavage20[at]REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:

- quote -

> I recently opened a small business (sole proprietorship)
> which involves distributing homemade novelty CD's. There are
> certain expenses such as mailers, CD roms, jewel cases,
> labeling materials etc. that get used over the course of
> time. So even if you get income in '04, you could be using
> packaging, CD rom, mailing label, etc. that was bought in
> '03.
> How would you treat something like this?


Either as inventory or as an expense in the year incurred as
the case may be.

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David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 10-18-2004, 03:41 AM
Arthur L. Rubin
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Default Re: How do you deal with expenses that effect more than one year?

Doc wrote:

- quote -

> I recently opened a small business (sole proprietorship)
> which involves distributing homemade novelty CD's. There are
> certain expenses such as mailers, CD roms, jewel cases,
> labeling materials etc. that get used over the course of
> time. So even if you get income in '04, you could be using
> packaging, CD rom, mailing label, etc. that was bought in
> '03.
> How would you treat something like this?


Inventory?

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Old 10-18-2004, 03:21 AM
Seth Breidbart
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Default Re: How do you deal with expenses that effect more than one year?

Doc <docsavage20[at]REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:

- quote -

> I recently opened a small business (sole proprietorship)
> which involves distributing homemade novelty CD's. There are
> certain expenses such as mailers, CD roms, jewel cases,
> labeling materials etc. that get used over the course of
> time. So even if you get income in '04, you could be using
> packaging, CD rom, mailing label, etc. that was bought in
> '03.
> How would you treat something like this?


CDRs, jewel cases, etc. are inventory ("Cost of Goods Sold").
Mailers, ink, mailing labels, etc. are office supplies.

(Yes, I know that the mailer probably costs more than the
CDR. So what?)

Seth

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Old 10-15-2004, 12:47 AM
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Default How do you deal with expenses that effect more than one year?

I recently opened a small business (sole proprietorship)
which involves distributing homemade novelty CD's. There are
certain expenses such as mailers, CD roms, jewel cases,
labeling materials etc. that get used over the course of
time. So even if you get income in '04, you could be using
packaging, CD rom, mailing label, etc. that was bought in
'03.

How would you treat something like this?

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