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Old 10-14-2004, 09:03 AM
Tom Healy
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Default Re: NOL carryback rejection by IRS

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> I have a C corporation that had a first large loss in a year
> that followed a series of profitable years. I filed an 1139
> carrying back the loss 2 years and it was sent back rejected
> by the IRS. I had claimed a NOL of $81,637 but the IRS said
> they calculated the NOL as $36,473. I thought the NOL would
> be the total income minus total deductions.
> Here are the numbers:
> Income:
> Gross Receipts: 8960
> Interest: 3466
> Captial Gain Net Income: 41655
> ------------------------------
> Total income: 54091


> Deductions:
> Salaries and wages: 45000
> Rents: 4000
> Taxes and Licenses: 66584
> Depreciation: 957
> Advertising: 3054
> Other deductions: 16133
> ------------------------------
> Total Deductions: 135728
> So the total loss for the year was -$81637. Is the IRS
> correct with the $36473 which would mean the calculation
> isn't straightforward ?
> Any worksheets to make the NOL calcuation? I've seen a
> publication for individuals to make NOL calculations but
> does this apply to C corporations?


The taxes deduction seems pretty big: did you accidentally
include federal income tax for the prior year? Otherwise I
haven't a clue.

If you believe your NOL is correct, you still have the
option of filing form 1120X.

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Old 10-14-2004, 08:06 AM
Drew Edmundson
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Default Re: NOL carryback rejection by IRS

shamber[at]yahoo.com (usfin) wrote:

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> I have a C corporation that had a first large loss in a year
> that followed a series of profitable years. I filed an 1139
> carrying back the loss 2 years and it was sent back rejected
> by the IRS. I had claimed a NOL of $81,637 but the IRS said
> they calculated the NOL as $36,473. I thought the NOL would
> be the total income minus total deductions.


See Section 172(c) and Regulation 1.172-2 for how to
calculate a corporation NOL.

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Old 10-11-2004, 04:40 AM
usfin
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Default NOL carryback rejection by IRS

I have a C corporation that had a first large loss in a year
that followed a series of profitable years. I filed an 1139
carrying back the loss 2 years and it was sent back rejected
by the IRS. I had claimed a NOL of $81,637 but the IRS said
they calculated the NOL as $36,473. I thought the NOL would
be the total income minus total deductions.

Here are the numbers:

Income:
Gross Receipts: 8960
Interest: 3466
Captial Gain Net Income: 41655
------------------------------
Total income: 54091

Deductions:
Salaries and wages: 45000
Rents: 4000
Taxes and Licenses: 66584
Depreciation: 957
Advertising: 3054
Other deductions: 16133
------------------------------
Total Deductions: 135728

So the total loss for the year was -$81637. Is the IRS
correct with the $36473 which would mean the calculation
isn't straightforward ?

Any worksheets to make the NOL calcuation? I've seen a
publication for individuals to make NOL calculations but
does this apply to C corporations?

Thanks,
Mike

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