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| MTW wrote: - quote - > Harlan Lunsford wrote:
Well, I didn't and wouldn't know that; and didn't as you can> > Gee Mike, you're young, aren't you? (grin > > Cause if you were over 65 you'd know. > I know because the filling out of forms greatly slows the > lines at the super market. <g > > I've never heard that Medicare would cover this. Perhaps > > state Medicaid might however. > Go to the Medicare homepage: www.medicare.gov and click on > the "Important information about Flu Shots" link. tell. Learn somethng EVERY day. Course I don't have Medicare. Maybe some day. ChEAr$, Harlan << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Harlan Lunsford <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > MTW wrote:
Google, my friends, Google. From the official Medicare Web site:> > In fact, doesn't Medicare pay for flu shots? In that case, > > it ~can't~ simply be a drug because Medicare DOESN'T COVER > > drugs (yet). > Gee Mike, you're young, aren't you? (grin > Cause if you were over 65 you'd know. > I've never heard that Medicare would cover this. Perhaps > state Medicaid might however. - quote - > Your flu shot is free, if you are enrolled in Medicare Part B and
<http://www.medicare.gov/Health/FluDetails.asp> your health care provider accepts Medicare assignment. The Medicare > program covers the flu shot and the cost of administration for > beneficiaries. Medicare recipients do not have to pay coinsurance or > a deductible under the flu shot benefit. For Managed Care Plan > members, most must get their flu shot from their Managed Care > Plan. ... Medicare Part B will pay for the shot no matter where you > get it, as long as the health care provider agrees not to charge you > more than Medicare pays. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2[at]spymac.com The average man doesn't want to be free. He simply wants to be safe. (H.L. Mencken) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Harlan Lunsford wrote: - quote - > Gee Mike, you're young, aren't you? (grin
I know because the filling out of forms greatly slows the> Cause if you were over 65 you'd know. lines at the super market. <g - quote - > I've never heard that Medicare would cover this. Perhaps
Go to the Medicare homepage: www.medicare.gov and click on> state Medicaid might however. the "Important information about Flu Shots" link. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > IRS Pub. 502 for 2003, and it contradicts several posters in
THANK YOU ! It's been too long since I read Pub 502. And> here who previously posted on deductibility of vitamins. too recently having it apply. To the doctor's recommendation of niacin, I can add the Oscal 500+D which is calcium for osteo whatever - bone density loss - and over the counter to be taken with a hideously expensive prescription. And how about the Tussin DM I am swigging by the bottleful at the moment for a bad cold and cough - also recommended by my doctor because I'm diabetic. Nan, EA in LA Entrenched belief is never altered by the facts..... << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| MTW wrote: - quote - > HW "Skip" Weldon wrote:
Gee Mike, you're young, aren't you? (grin> > At any rate, I assume flu shots are reimbursable under > > Medical FSAs. > In fact, doesn't Medicare pay for flu shots? In that case, > it ~can't~ simply be a drug because Medicare DOESN'T COVER > drugs (yet). Cause if you were over 65 you'd know. I've never heard that Medicare would cover this. Perhaps state Medicaid might however. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:58:40 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| HW "Skip" Weldon wrote: - quote - > At any rate, I assume flu shots are reimbursable under
In fact, doesn't Medicare pay for flu shots? In that case,> Medical FSAs. it ~can't~ simply be a drug because Medicare DOESN'T COVER drugs (yet). MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > > There was a thread not too long ago where it was discussed
The purpose of a flu vaccination is the prevention of> > > that medications obtainable without a prescription are not > > > deductible as medical expense. I assume this also applies > > > to flu shots, since no prescription is required, and anyone > > > can show up at the grocery store or drug store and get one > > > without a doctor's order or prescription. I got mine today > > > at Walgreens, and when I left there were about 50 people > > > lined up behind me. > > I let this one go by as I thought the answer was so obvious > > that there would be too many answers. > > > I must have missed something! I've always thought that > > vaccinations to prevent disease are deductible as medical > > expense. Is there some exception in the law for flu shots? > Why isn't antioxidant OTC pills, which prevent disease, > deductible? > Or other injectible medicines available without > prescription, other than insulin? > Pub 502 seems to deliberately avoid the issue, but since Flu > shots are OTC and are not used to treat disease, why would > they differ from other OTC pills or exercise regimens which > are to prevent disease? disease. This meets the criteria of medical care. the only issue is whether one has purchased an OTC medicine or whether one has paid for a medical procedure. Unless an individual is actually buying flu vaccine OTC and then injecting it himself or paying some other person to inject it, the payment is for a medical procedure to prevent disease. I see no reason why it is not deductible. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > > There was a thread not too long ago where it was discussed
You have to itemize and meet the 7-1/2% threshold for> > > that medications obtainable without a prescription are not > > > deductible as medical expense. I assume this also applies > > > to flu shots, since no prescription is required, and anyone > > > can show up at the grocery store or drug store and get one > > > without a doctor's order or prescription. I got mine today > > > at Walgreens, and when I left there were about 50 people > > > lined up behind me. > > I let this one go by as I thought the answer was so obvious > > that there would be too many answers. > > > I must have missed something! I've always thought that > > vaccinations to prevent disease are deductible as medical > > expense. Is there some exception in the law for flu shots? > Why isn't antioxidant OTC pills, which prevent disease, > deductible? > Or other injectible medicines available without > prescription, other than insulin? > Pub 502 seems to deliberately avoid the issue, but since Flu > shots are OTC and are not used to treat disease, why would > they differ from other OTC pills or exercise regimens which > are to prevent disease? medical expenses before this goes from being an academic exercise to being a practice issue. UNLESS you have health insurance or an FSA for medical expenses then it is a function of what the policy or the FDA includes and explicitly excludes. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Ronni wrote: - quote - > I think I missed something, also. It's only MEDICATIONS
When you get a flu shot you pay about $10 for the vaccine> that have to be prescription drugs (or insulin) in order to > be deductible. The flu shot is a procedure -- they're not > selling you the vaccine, they're injecting it. and about $10 for the materials (syringe, alcohol, band-aid, labor costs of nurse and paperwork, etc.). It's not like you pay $20 for the materials, and they throw in the vaccine for free. It's good to know, in any case, that folks here say they are deductible. And here's more great news!-- I was just looking online at IRS Pub. 502 for 2003, and it contradicts several posters in here who previously posted on deductibility of vitamins. I had asked if I could deduct my over-the-counter high dose niacin since my doctor wanted me to take it to lower my cholesterol, since many people cannot tolerate the prescription form of niacin The consensus in here was no, I could not because it was non-prescription. However, look what I just found in Pub. 502 (2003): "You cannot include in medical expenses the cost of nutritional supplements, vitamins, herbal supplements, “natural medicines,” etc. unless they are recommended by a medical practitioner as treatment for a specific medical condition diagnosed by a physician." Since my physician recommended the niacin, I can apparently deduct it. The above says it doesn't have to be prescribed, if recommended. That's good news, since I spend about $200 per year on it. That's an extra $50 dollars in tax savings to spend on ice cream and freedom fries ![]() GS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > There was a thread not too long ago where it was discussed
Why isn't antioxidant OTC pills, which prevent disease,> > that medications obtainable without a prescription are not > > deductible as medical expense. I assume this also applies > > to flu shots, since no prescription is required, and anyone > > can show up at the grocery store or drug store and get one > > without a doctor's order or prescription. I got mine today > > at Walgreens, and when I left there were about 50 people > > lined up behind me. > I let this one go by as I thought the answer was so obvious > that there would be too many answers. > I must have missed something! I've always thought that > vaccinations to prevent disease are deductible as medical > expense. Is there some exception in the law for flu shots? deductible? Or other injectible medicines available without prescription, other than insulin? Pub 502 seems to deliberately avoid the issue, but since Flu shots are OTC and are not used to treat disease, why would they differ from other OTC pills or exercise regimens which are to prevent disease? __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > A.G. Kalman wrote:
While the actual injection itself is a "procedure", what's> > I must have missed something! I've always thought that > > vaccinations to prevent disease are deductible as medical > > expense. Is there some exception in the law for flu shots? > I think I missed something, also. It's only MEDICATIONS > that have to be prescription drugs (or insulin) in order to > be deductible. The flu shot is a procedure -- they're not > selling you the vaccine, they're injecting it. coursing through your veins is a drug, pure and simple. All chemicals are drugs, good or bad. Only one chemical need not be a prescription - insulin. But Scotch whisky to be deductible would have to be prescribed. Just can't get my doc to agree, however. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA 14oct 04 22:22:22 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > JanZtax wrote:
Sure thing! Just like my wrist watch which I NEED to make> > (I'm of the school that says anyone who works in a tax > > office should get a flu shot) > Would that make it a business expense, even if not allowable > as a medical expense? sure I'm not late for an appointment, or rather that I'm ready when the client gets here. Come to think of it...... my hair also grows on company time. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin[at]sprintmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I think I missed something, also. It's only MEDICATIONS
This thread reminds me of the investment and financial> that have to be prescription drugs (or insulin) in order to > be deductible. The flu shot is a procedure -- they're not > selling you the vaccine, they're injecting it. planning newsgroups where nobody can agree on anything. <grin Seriously, the proposition that flu vaccinations are a procedure not product would seem to fly in the face of today's headlines - there's no shortage of procedure (nurses, needles and willing customers), the problem is vaccine product. But then, nobody said this stuff had to make sense. At any rate, I assume flu shots are reimbursable under Medical FSAs. -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A.G. Kalman wrote: - quote - > I must have missed something! I've always thought that
I think I missed something, also. It's only MEDICATIONS> vaccinations to prevent disease are deductible as medical > expense. Is there some exception in the law for flu shots? that have to be prescription drugs (or insulin) in order to be deductible. The flu shot is a procedure -- they're not selling you the vaccine, they're injecting it. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| GarySport wrote: - quote - > There was a thread not too long ago where it was discussed
I let this one go by as I thought the answer was so obvious> that medications obtainable without a prescription are not > deductible as medical expense. I assume this also applies > to flu shots, since no prescription is required, and anyone > can show up at the grocery store or drug store and get one > without a doctor's order or prescription. I got mine today > at Walgreens, and when I left there were about 50 people > lined up behind me. that there would be too many answers. I must have missed something! I've always thought that vaccinations to prevent disease are deductible as medical expense. Is there some exception in the law for flu shots? -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| JanZtax wrote: - quote - > (I'm of the school that says anyone who works in a tax
Would that make it a business expense, even if not allowable> office should get a flu shot) as a medical expense? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > I got mine today at Walgreens, and when I left there were
For what it's worth -- I am on the medically-recommended> > about 50 people lined up behind me. > The real question is "were you deserving enough to be > entitled to get a shot??!" The San Francisco Chronicle had a > front page story about "non-deserving people" hogging the > shots that should go to others (and hiding their faces and > refusing to talk to the reporter who questioned them about > it)! list for flu shots, but not on the "official" list in regard the current shortage. I hope my doctor will ignore the "offical" list. - quote - > (I'm of the school that says anyone who works in a tax
Probably a tetanus shot, also.> office should get a flu shot) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I got mine today at Walgreens, and when I left there were
The real question is "were you deserving enough to be> about 50 people lined up behind me. entitled to get a shot??!" The San Francisco Chronicle had a front page story about "non-deserving people" hogging the shots that should go to others (and hiding their faces and refusing to talk to the reporter who questioned them about it)! (I'm of the school that says anyone who works in a tax office should get a flu shot) Jan Zobel EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| GarySport wrote: - quote - > There was a thread not too long ago where it was discussed
That's about the size of it; non deductible.> that medications obtainable without a prescription are not > deductible as medical expense. I assume this also applies > to flu shots, since no prescription is required, and anyone > can show up at the grocery store or drug store and get one > without a doctor's order or prescription. I got mine today > at Walgreens, and when I left there were about 50 people > lined up behind me. On a similar note, some doctors now "prescribe" over the counter medications, since they're so much cheaper and as effective. For example, over the counter, 20$, generic of the usual drug 50$, and brand name, 100$. Makes sense, eh? Problem is, insurance companies won't cover over the counter drugs, and the consumer might still wind up paying the same amount (after deductible) for presecription drugs. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| garysport[at]aol.comjk.net (GarySport) wrote: - quote - > There was a thread not too long ago where it was discussed
Non-prescription medicines are not deductible as a medical> that medications obtainable without a prescription are not > deductible as medical expense. I assume this also applies > to flu shots, since no prescription is required, and anyone > can show up at the grocery store or drug store and get one > without a doctor's order or prescription. I got mine today > at Walgreens, and when I left there were about 50 people > lined up behind me. expense. If the flu shot is administered in your doctor's office, because you are a high-risk patient, it might be. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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