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| Frederick Jorden wrote: - quote - > The suggested wording for articles of incorporation, VA
I believe there is a similar requirement in my state (WA),> State Corporation Commission, of a non-profit corporation > include terms that upon termination all remaining assets are > to be transferred to another charitable organization. I am > not sure that they will charter an organization without this > provision. although I think it would be more appropriate to refer to "non-profit" organizations rather than "charitable." Because of this I would think it would be virtually impossible to actually CONVERT an existing non-profit entity to for-profit status. Rather, I think you would liquidate the non-profit, making an appropriate distribution of its assets, and then start a new for-profit organization from scratch. If anyone is confused, this is NOT the maneuver I was referring to in my prior message. I was referring to simply terminating the organization's "tax exempt" status for federal income taxes WITHOUT any underlying change in the entity's organizational status. Terms like "non-profit" and "tax exempt" are frequently used interchangeably, but they are not, not, not the same thing! <g MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| MTW wrote: - quote - > Ignateous Laughing wrote:
The suggested wording for articles of incorporation, VA> > If a 501(c)(7) decides, due to the fact that they anticipate > > substantial unrelated business income in the future, to > > become a for profit business, what do they need to do to > > terminate their election to be treated as tax exempt? Would > > the corporation maintain any NOL from unrelated business > > ventures into the for profit business? > Actually, you are asking two different questions. Changing > from non-profit to for-profit status is a matter of STATE > law. But, I assume you aren't really intending to do that. > Rather, I assume that you simply wish to revoke the > organization's exempt status for FEDERAL income tax purpose > (while the organization continues to be incorporated as a > "non-profit" under applicable state law). > This is not that uncommon. I once helped a club do this, and > I've heard of several others that have done likewise. As I > recall in the case I handled, the club was being audited by > the exempt organization people at the time. As part of the > audit, we requested that the exempt status be terminated. As > I recall, this was handled "routinely" and did not involve > much more than a board resolution to authorize it. > But, I don't know whether an "unrelated" NOL can be carried > forward. State Corporation Commission, of a non-profit corporation include terms that upon termination all remaining assets are to be transferred to another charitable organization. I am not sure that they will charter an organization without this provision. -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Ignateous Laughing wrote: - quote - > If a 501(c)(7) decides, due to the fact that they anticipate
Actually, you are asking two different questions. Changing> substantial unrelated business income in the future, to > become a for profit business, what do they need to do to > terminate their election to be treated as tax exempt? Would > the corporation maintain any NOL from unrelated business > ventures into the for profit business? from non-profit to for-profit status is a matter of STATE law. But, I assume you aren't really intending to do that. Rather, I assume that you simply wish to revoke the organization's exempt status for FEDERAL income tax purpose (while the organization continues to be incorporated as a "non-profit" under applicable state law). This is not that uncommon. I once helped a club do this, and I've heard of several others that have done likewise. As I recall in the case I handled, the club was being audited by the exempt organization people at the time. As part of the audit, we requested that the exempt status be terminated. As I recall, this was handled "routinely" and did not involve much more than a board resolution to authorize it. But, I don't know whether an "unrelated" NOL can be carried forward. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| If a 501(c)(7) decides, due to the fact that they anticipate substantial unrelated business income in the future, to become a for profit business, what do they need to do to terminate their election to be treated as tax exempt? Would the corporation maintain any NOL from unrelated business ventures into the for profit business? TIA, IB << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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