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Old 10-15-2004, 12:28 AM
Katie Jaques
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"John" <John[at]john.com> wrote:

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> Assuming I fall into the maximum tax brackets, what are the
> marginal tax rates for NYS and Federal taxes, both long term
> capital gains and earned. I am expecting one big year.
> The NYS tax is deductable from the Federal tax, but is that
> in the year it was paid (ie. 2004 tax paid in 2005) or the
> year it was incurred (ie. 2004 tax incurred in 2004, but
> paid in 2004)? If the first, any way around it; unnecessary
> estimated tax payments so the money is paid in 2004 maybe?
> Unfortunately, I am only expecting one big year, so I won't
> have much use for a tax deduction next year, but could sure
> use it this year.


The top marginal NY state individual income tax rate for
2003, 2004 and 2005 is 7.7%

Katie in San Diego

The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and
does not constitute legal or professional advice.

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Old 10-11-2004, 03:23 AM
Seth Breidbart
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John <John[at]john.com> wrote:

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> > State taxes are deductible on your federal tax return when
> > PAID. If your final estimated tax payment for the state is
> > due in January 2005, then pay it in December 2004 to get the
> > deduction on your 2004 return.


> Is it okay to make a large estimated payment in December
> that is not required, to get it in 2004 rather than to pay
> it with the return when it is owed?


Yes; however, if it is much larger than will be owed (so you
get it refunded), the IRS might not allow it as a deduction.
Paying it in December instead of January (4th quarter
estimated) is fine.

Seth

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Old 10-11-2004, 03:04 AM
Helen P. OPlanick EA
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> Is it okay to make a large estimated payment in December
> that is not required, to get it in 2004 rather than to pay
> it with the return when it is owed?


No. Because #1, the refund will be income for you in the
following year, and
#2 - it can be considered "funny" and disallowed by IRS.

Helen, EA in PA
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Old 10-08-2004, 04:02 PM
John
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> State taxes are deductible on your federal tax return when
> PAID. If your final estimated tax payment for the state is
> due in January 2005, then pay it in December 2004 to get the
> deduction on your 2004 return.


Is it okay to make a large estimated payment in December
that is not required, to get it in 2004 rather than to pay
it with the return when it is owed?

My 2004 will be much bigger than my 2003, so no estimated
taxes were required.

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Old 10-04-2004, 03:36 PM
Tom Healy
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> Assuming I fall into the maximum tax brackets, what are the
> marginal tax rates for NYS and Federal taxes, both long term
> capital gains and earned. I am expecting one big year.
> The NYS tax is deductable from the Federal tax, but is that
> in the year it was paid (ie. 2004 tax paid in 2005) or the
> year it was incurred (ie. 2004 tax incurred in 2004, but
> paid in 2004)? If the first, any way around it; unnecessary
> estimated tax payments so the money is paid in 2004 maybe?
> Unfortunately, I am only expecting one big year, so I won't
> have much use for a tax deduction next year, but could sure
> use it this year.


You need to pay the tax in the year you intend to take the
deduction, so if 2004 is the year, send NYS an estimated tax
payment near the end of December. See a tax pro to get an
idea of the cost. I know NYS has the same rate for capital
gains as for ordinary income (I think around 7.5% max plus
city taxes if relevant), while the feds are 15% max for
capital gains. It is possible that the AMT would limit the
deductibility of the NYS tax in 2004, which is wy you need
to check it out before you cut the check.

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Thomas E Healy, CPA, PC
1650 38th St., Ste 202W
Boulder, CO 80301
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phone (303) 443-1804
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:38 PM
Herb Smith
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"John" <John[at]john.com> wrote:

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> Assuming I fall into the maximum tax brackets, what are the
> marginal tax rates for NYS and Federal taxes, both long term
> capital gains and earned. I am expecting one big year.


Google is your friend; just search for "NY state tax rates"

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> The NYS tax is deductable from the Federal tax, but is that
> in the year it was paid (ie. 2004 tax paid in 2005) or the
> year it was incurred (ie. 2004 tax incurred in 2004, but
> paid in 2004)? If the first, any way around it; unnecessary
> estimated tax payments so the money is paid in 2004 maybe?
> Unfortunately, I am only expecting one big year, so I won't
> have much use for a tax deduction next year, but could sure
> use it this year.


State taxes are deductible on your federal tax return when
PAID. If your final estimated tax payment for the state is
due in January 2005, then pay it in December 2004 to get the
deduction on your 2004 return.

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Old 10-04-2004, 02:38 PM
Missy Doyle
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"John" <John[at]john.com> wrote:

- quote -

> Assuming I fall into the maximum tax brackets, what are the
> marginal tax rates for NYS and Federal taxes, both long term
> capital gains and earned. I am expecting one big year.
> The NYS tax is deductable from the Federal tax, but is that
> in the year it was paid (ie. 2004 tax paid in 2005) or the
> year it was incurred (ie. 2004 tax incurred in 2004, but
> paid in 2004)? If the first, any way around it; unnecessary
> estimated tax payments so the money is paid in 2004 maybe?
> Unfortunately, I am only expecting one big year, so I won't
> have much use for a tax deduction next year, but could sure
> use it this year.


Sorry. If you are an individual as opposed to a corp. you
are on a cash basis. You deduct the expense for the year
the expense is paid. Paid in 2004 deduct on 2004 - 1040.

Missy Doyle

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Old 10-02-2004, 10:49 AM
John
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Default NYS Tax Rates

Assuming I fall into the maximum tax brackets, what are the
marginal tax rates for NYS and Federal taxes, both long term
capital gains and earned. I am expecting one big year.

The NYS tax is deductable from the Federal tax, but is that
in the year it was paid (ie. 2004 tax paid in 2005) or the
year it was incurred (ie. 2004 tax incurred in 2004, but
paid in 2004)? If the first, any way around it; unnecessary
estimated tax payments so the money is paid in 2004 maybe?
Unfortunately, I am only expecting one big year, so I won't
have much use for a tax deduction next year, but could sure
use it this year.

Thanks.

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