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| "Brian Collie" <bc[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > I have a client, the sole shareholder of a C corp, who wants
I believe it was Winston Churchill who said "An appeaser is> to sell a piece of real estate, owned by the corporation, to > an unrelated party for $50,000. The property is valued by > the tax appraisal district at $320,000. > I know, the first question is why would he do this. The > answer is basically because the purchaser is harrassing him. > He knows that by selling the property, the harrassment will > stop. Don't tell me to tell him to get a lawyer or call the > police; I have already done that. The bottom line is he is > going to sell. > I have told him that the worst case scenario would be a > $270,000 corporate dividend to him and a $270,000 gift to > the purchaser. Is there any way this could be worse? one who feeds the crocodile, hoping to be eaten last." If I were you the first thing I would do is advise the client in writing that doing what he intends to do will quite likely encourage the "purchaser" to pursue him when he next wants another piece of property. That being said - it is hard to argue with someone whose mind is made up. I'd make this client sign an acknowledgement letter stating that I had advised him to contact the State's Attorney General's office and that I could make no guarantees or warranties about the tax outcome of this transaction. Clients like this are usually looking to hang all the associated problems on someone else, be careful and CYA. Gene E. Utterback, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I have a client, the sole shareholder of a C corp, who wants
I can think of worse: the real estate is deemed distributed> to sell a piece of real estate, owned by the corporation, to > an unrelated party for $50,000. The property is valued by > the tax appraisal district at $320,000. > I know, the first question is why would he do this. The > answer is basically because the purchaser is harrassing him. > He knows that by selling the property, the harrassment will > stop. Don't tell me to tell him to get a lawyer or call the > police; I have already done that. The bottom line is he is > going to sell. > I have told him that the worst case scenario would be a > $270,000 corporate dividend to him and a $270,000 gift to > the purchaser. Is there any way this could be worse? to the shareholder as a dividend, generating corporate tax on the gain, in addition to the tax on the shareholder (which is at least at a lower rate than in past years). this reminds me of the two rules for putting real estate into a corporation: Rule 1: don't ever put real estate into a corporation. Rule 2: if in doubt, refer to rule 1 (courtesy of Mike Weatherwax, CPA). But I wonder if he isn't getting fair value in terms of relief from harassment. Is this harassment being done to the shareholder as an individual, or in his capacity as an officer of the corporation? In the latter case, there may not be a dividend issue. Even if he doesn't want to have an attorney pursue the harassment, he might still want to have one lay out the issues in the most favorable light before he acts. -- Thomas E Healy, CPA, PC 1650 38th St., Ste 202W Boulder, CO 80301 Please send email to: tom[at]tomhealycpa.com, since I block all email at my newsgroup address. phone (303) 443-1804 fax (720) 489-3772 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Brian Collie wrote: - quote - > I have a client, the sole shareholder of a C corp, who wants
I don't even see the worse case scenario. After all, it's> to sell a piece of real estate, owned by the corporation, to > an unrelated party for $50,000. The property is valued by > the tax appraisal district at $320,000. > I know, the first question is why would he do this. The > answer is basically because the purchaser is harrassing him. > He knows that by selling the property, the harrassment will > stop. Don't tell me to tell him to get a lawyer or call the > police; I have already done that. The bottom line is he is > going to sell. > I have told him that the worst case scenario would be a > $270,000 corporate dividend to him and a $270,000 gift to > the purchaser. Is there any way this could be worse? not he who is selling, but the corporation. and you did say "unrelated party". If IRS could (upon audit of course) force such a worse case scenario you describe above, then I'd better rethink my largess when I give a client an old computer which still has 200$ of depreciation yet to be deducted. Oh, and you've probably already guessed that your client has something to hide. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I have a client, the sole shareholder of a C corp, who wants to sell a piece of real estate, owned by the corporation, to an unrelated party for $50,000. The property is valued by the tax appraisal district at $320,000. I know, the first question is why would he do this. The answer is basically because the purchaser is harrassing him. He knows that by selling the property, the harrassment will stop. Don't tell me to tell him to get a lawyer or call the police; I have already done that. The bottom line is he is going to sell. I have told him that the worst case scenario would be a $270,000 corporate dividend to him and a $270,000 gift to the purchaser. Is there any way this could be worse? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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