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| Does that mean that my 79 year old client whose 55 year old daughter still lives at home and sort of works on her magnum opus/doctoral dissertation, can continue to file as HOH or not? The daughter is, of course, a dependent. Linda Dorfmont E.A., CFP, CSA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I'm reading the "Tax Relief Act" as quoted. Uniform Definition of Qualifying Child leaves me confused about single parents of an adult, non-dependent child who lives with them. For the last 20 years or more I've used adult children to qualify single parents as head of household. Assume the other rules are met of course. Reading the reference, everything is fine except that, for "qualifying child" children over 18 will not be considered. "Under the new law, a taxpayer is eligible for Head of household ....with a qualifying child or a dependent child" And we're right back to the "qualifying child" definition, i.e., under 18. What am I missing - PLEASE. Nan, EA in LA Stress is what happens when your gut says "NO" and your mouth says "YES I'D BE GLAD TO". << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU wrote: - quote - > I agree it should make it easier, but I point out that one
You are correct. Previously, any unmarried child of any age> COULD qualify previously for HoH with a non-dependent child > living in the home. could meet the test without being your dependent. In 2005, the QC (expanded to include siblings and their linear descendants) has to meet the age test unless disabled. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "A.G. Kalman" <glendale202-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > John H. Fisher wrote:
I agree it should make it easier, but I point out that one> > "Barney Byrd" <Barney_Byrd[at]fictitious.org> writes: > > > http://www.smbiz.com/sbspec81.html > > I find this rather troubling. It will require changing > > scores of my client's filing status: > > > Under the new law, a taxpayer is eligible for head of > > household filing status only with respect to a qualifying > > child or an individual for whom the taxpayer is entitled to > > a dependency exemption. Under the new law a taxpayer may > > claim head of household filing status if the taxpayer is > > unmarried (and not a surviving spouse) and pays more than > > one half of the cost of maintaining as his or her home a > > household which is the principal place of abode for more > > than one half the year of (1) a qualifying child, or (2) an > > individual for whom the taxpayer may claim a dependency > > exemption. As under present law, a taxpayer may claim head > > of household status with respect to a parent for whom the > > taxpayer may claim a dependency exemption and who does not > > live with the taxpayer, if certain requirements are > > satisfied. > You've got me stumped. If anything, the new law makes its > easier for someone to file as HOH. E.g., a qualifying child > (does not have to be your dependent) includes siblings and > their offspring. > Prior law required they be your dependent. The new law > allows use of the old law rules relating to someone who is > your dependent. Foster children no longer have to meet the > full year residence rule nor do they have to be your > dependent. The definition of unmarried remains unchanged. > Temporary absences from the residence are allowed. The > exception for parents who do not reside with you still > exists. > I haven't thought this out completely as yet. However, who > of your clients would lose the ability to claim HOH? COULD qualify previously for HoH with a non-dependent child living in the home. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "A.G. Kalman" <glendale202-mtm[at]yahoo.com> writes: - quote - > John H. Fisher wrote:
=> > "Barney Byrd" <Barney_Byrd[at]fictitious.org> writes: > > > http://www.smbiz.com/sbspec81.html > > I find this rather troubling. It will require changing > > scores of my client's filing status: > > > Under the new law, a taxpayer is eligible for head of > > household filing status only with respect to a qualifying > > child or an individual for whom the taxpayer is entitled to > > a dependency exemption. Under the new law a taxpayer may > > claim head of household filing status if the taxpayer is > > unmarried (and not a surviving spouse) and pays more than > > one half of the cost of maintaining as his or her home a > > household which is the principal place of abode for more > > than one half the year of (1) a qualifying child, or (2) an > > individual for whom the taxpayer may claim a dependency > > exemption. As under present law, a taxpayer may claim head > > of household status with respect to a parent for whom the > > taxpayer may claim a dependency exemption and who does not > > live with the taxpayer, if certain requirements are > > satisfied. > You've got me stumped. If anything, the new law makes its > easier for someone to file as HOH. E.g., a qualifying child > (does not have to be your dependent) includes siblings and > their offspring. > Prior law required they be your dependent. The new law > allows use of the old law rules relating to someone who is > your dependent. Foster children no longer have to meet the > full year residence rule nor do they have to be your > dependent. The definition of unmarried remains unchanged. > Temporary absences from the residence are allowed. The > exception for parents who do not reside with you still > exists. > I haven't thought this out completely as yet. However, who > of your clients would lose the ability to claim HO Alan, when I read the rules, my mind was on "qualifyingchild" as the child of separated/divorced parents to the exclusion of ALL others. The children I had in mind were those in their 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, etc whom I, initially, thought would be excluded. That's not the case!!! Parents, who have older children may still qualify, if they meet the other tests!!= ![]() Sorry 'bout that!!! BUT, at the same time, somewhat relieved!!= ![]() "Jack" - John H. Fisher - TaxService[at]aol.com Philadelphia, Pa - Atlantic City, NJ - West Wildwood, NJ My Newsgroups & Boards at: http://members.aol.com/TaxService/index.html Where Ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise!= ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| John H. Fisher wrote: - quote - > "Barney Byrd" <Barney_Byrd[at]fictitious.org> writes:
You've got me stumped. If anything, the new law makes its> > http://www.smbiz.com/sbspec81.html > I find this rather troubling. It will require changing > scores of my client's filing status: > Under the new law, a taxpayer is eligible for head of > household filing status only with respect to a qualifying > child or an individual for whom the taxpayer is entitled to > a dependency exemption. Under the new law a taxpayer may > claim head of household filing status if the taxpayer is > unmarried (and not a surviving spouse) and pays more than > one half of the cost of maintaining as his or her home a > household which is the principal place of abode for more > than one half the year of (1) a qualifying child, or (2) an > individual for whom the taxpayer may claim a dependency > exemption. As under present law, a taxpayer may claim head > of household status with respect to a parent for whom the > taxpayer may claim a dependency exemption and who does not > live with the taxpayer, if certain requirements are > satisfied. easier for someone to file as HOH. E.g., a qualifying child (does not have to be your dependent) includes siblings and their offspring. Prior law required they be your dependent. The new law allows use of the old law rules relating to someone who is your dependent. Foster children no longer have to meet the full year residence rule nor do they have to be your dependent. The definition of unmarried remains unchanged. Temporary absences from the residence are allowed. The exception for parents who do not reside with you still exists. I haven't thought this out completely as yet. However, who of your clients would lose the ability to claim HOH? -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Barney Byrd" <Barney_Byrd[at]fictitious.org> writes: - quote - I find this rather troubling. It will require changing scores of my client's filing status: Under the new law, a taxpayer is eligible for head of household filing status only with respect to a qualifying child or an individual for whom the taxpayer is entitled to a dependency exemption. Under the new law a taxpayer may claim head of household filing status if the taxpayer is unmarried (and not a surviving spouse) and pays more than one half of the cost of maintaining as his or her home a household which is the principal place of abode for more than one half the year of (1) a qualifying child, or (2) an individual for whom the taxpayer may claim a dependency exemption. As under present law, a taxpayer may claim head of household status with respect to a parent for whom the taxpayer may claim a dependency exemption and who does not live with the taxpayer, if certain requirements are satisfied. "Jack" - John H. Fisher - TaxService[at]aol.com Philadelphia, Pa - Atlantic City, NJ - West Wildwood, NJ My Newsgroups & Boards at: http://members.aol.com/TaxService/index.html Where Ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise!= ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "A.G. Kalman" <glendale202-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > HR 1308 will become law when Pres. Bush signs it.
The Small Biz website has a good synopsis.> The best document I have found that explains these > changes is the Conference Committee Joint Explan- > atory Statement. http://www.smbiz.com/sbspec81.html Barney Byrd << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| HR 1308 will become law when Pres. Bush signs it. Besides extending certain expiring provisions, the bill also contains changes to an area of tax law that generates a lot of questions on this newsgroup during tax season. Specifically, it modifies the definition of a qualifying child or relative for purposes of the dependency exemption, Child Tax Credit, Earned Income Credit, Dependent Care Credit and Head of Household filing status. The best document I have found that explains these changes is the Conference Committee Joint Explanatory Statement. As "Thomas" does not have HR1308 details as yet, you can find links to the Joint Explanatory Statement, final legislative text and other documents at: http://waysandmeans.house.gov/Links.asp?section=343 -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |