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Old 10-02-2004, 10:30 AM
Christopher Green
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Jenny" <cjsh2125[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Since my tax rate is 15%, it is better than capital gain tax
> (25%). So better to sell 'disqualified shares' as ordinary
> income? I paid 15% less than market price and some are
> trippled already and would like to cash in..


If you're in the 15% bracket, your capital gains rate would
be 5%. So selling the qualified shares will still incur less
of a tax bill.

Watch the bargain element, though: the 15% bargain-purchase
element of your ESPP stock is ordinary income, regardless.

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Old 09-28-2004, 08:40 PM
Jenny
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"Christopher Green" <cj.green[at]worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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> "Jenny" <cjsh2125[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

> > I have some company stocks bought via employee stock
> > purchase plan. Since they are doubled, I am thinking about
> > selling them. But I noticed that some shares marked as 423b
> > disqualified.
> > > Anyone can tell me what 423b is about?? I know I have to pay

> > tax on the gain. but 423b means I cannot sell them?


> "423b disqualified" doesn't mean you can't sell them, just
> that the tax consequences are different.
> 423 is the Tax Code section governing ESPPs. It includes a
> holding period requirement, which I believe is two years
> from the subscription date or one year from the purchase
> date.
> If you sell disqualified shares, that sale is a
> "disqualifying disposition", and your gain on the sale is
> ordinary income. Employers are supposed to track
> disqualifying sales and report them on W-2s.
> Regulations on selling stock in ESPPs have been in flux for
> years and are at present about as clear as old motor oil. In
> this situation, seeking professional advice is a Very Good
> Thing.


Since my tax rate is 15%, it is better than capital gain tax
(25%). So better to sell 'disqualified shares' as ordinary
income? I paid 15% less than market price and some are
trippled already and would like to cash in..

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Old 09-23-2004, 03:33 AM
Christopher Green
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Default Re: 423b

"Jenny" <cjsh2125[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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> I have some company stocks bought via employee stock
> purchase plan. Since they are doubled, I am thinking about
> selling them. But I noticed that some shares marked as 423b
> disqualified.
> Anyone can tell me what 423b is about?? I know I have to pay
> tax on the gain. but 423b means I cannot sell them?


"423b disqualified" doesn't mean you can't sell them, just
that the tax consequences are different.

423 is the Tax Code section governing ESPPs. It includes a
holding period requirement, which I believe is two years
from the subscription date or one year from the purchase
date.

If you sell disqualified shares, that sale is a
"disqualifying disposition", and your gain on the sale is
ordinary income. Employers are supposed to track
disqualifying sales and report them on W-2s.

Regulations on selling stock in ESPPs have been in flux for
years and are at present about as clear as old motor oil. In
this situation, seeking professional advice is a Very Good
Thing.

--
Chris Green

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Old 09-22-2004, 02:24 AM
Jenny
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Default 423b

I have some company stocks bought via employee stock
purchase plan. Since they are doubled, I am thinking about
selling them. But I noticed that some shares marked as 423b
disqualified.

Anyone can tell me what 423b is about?? I know I have to pay
tax on the gain. but 423b means I cannot sell them?

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