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Old 09-23-2004, 03:33 AM
Hamlet the Prince
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You cannot deduct the initiation fees or the dues. Code
section 274(a)(3) states that ". . . no deduction shall be
allowed under this chapter for amounts paid or incurred for
membership in any club organized for business, pleasure,
recreation, or other social purpose."

You may be able to deduct a portion of your meals and
entertainment, but only if you meet certain other criteria.

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Old 09-23-2004, 03:14 AM
Brian
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"daf999999" <daf999999[at]rc.yahoo.akadns.net> wrote

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> I am a member of an LLP that requires me to belong to a
> social or dining club for purposes of entertaining
> clients/potential clients. I do not get reimbursed from the
> LLP for these expenses. I am complying with the LLP by
> joining a country club. Can I take either (i) initiation
> fee; (ii) monthly dues; and/or (iii) related expenses as
> unreimbursed partnership expenses to be subtracted from my
> K-1 income? If, for example, I can only take a percentage
> of monthly dues corresponding to percentage of logged
> business use, are the dues subject to the 50% business
> meals limitation. Can anybody point me to the specific
> IRS regs?


The club dues are nondeductible - period. Internal Revenue
Code section 274(a). This would also include the inititi-
ation fees. See also page 190 of the 2003 IRS Publication
17.

Brian Bivona

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Old 09-23-2004, 02:55 AM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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"daf999999" <daf999999[at]rc.yahoo.akadns.net> wrote:

- quote -

> I am a member of an LLP that requires me to belong to a
> social or dining club for purposes of entertaining
> clients/potential clients. I do not get reimbursed from the
> LLP for these expenses. I am complying with the LLP by
> joining a country club. Can I take either (i) initiation
> fee; (ii) monthly dues; and/or (iii) related expenses as
> unreimbursed partnership expenses to be subtracted from my
> K-1 income? If, for example, I can only take a percentage
> of monthly dues corresponding to percentage of logged
> business use, are the dues subject to the 50% business meals
> limitation. Can anybody point me to the specific IRS regs?


I don't know the specific guidance, but it's not deductible
at all in any portion regardless of your business usage.

--
David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 09-23-2004, 02:36 AM
Paul A Thomas
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"daf999999" <daf999999[at]rc.yahoo.akadns.net> wrote

- quote -

> I am a member of an LLP that requires me to belong to a
> social or dining club for purposes of entertaining
> clients/potential clients. I do not get reimbursed from the
> LLP for these expenses. I am complying with the LLP by
> joining a country club. Can I take either (i) initiation
> fee; (ii) monthly dues; and/or (iii) related expenses as
> unreimbursed partnership expenses to be subtracted from my
> K-1 income?


The dues, no. The initiation fee, no. The "related"
expenses (I guess you are talking about dinners, golf, etc)
would flow to your return. Only half of which is deductible
for the meals and entertainment of a business
client/associate.

- quote -

> If, for example, I can only take a percentage
> of monthly dues corresponding to percentage of logged
> business use, are the dues subject to the 50% business meals
> limitation. Can anybody point me to the specific IRS regs?


Code Section 274(a)(3)
Regulation 1.274-2(a)(2)(iii)(a)

--
Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia
taxman at negia.net

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Old 09-23-2004, 02:36 AM
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"daf999999" <daf999999[at]rc.yahoo.akadns.net> wrote:

- quote -

> I am a member of an LLP that requires me to belong to a
> social or dining club for purposes of entertaining
> clients/potential clients. I do not get reimbursed from the
> LLP for these expenses. I am complying with the LLP by
> joining a country club. Can I take either (i) initiation
> fee; (ii) monthly dues; and/or (iii) related expenses as
> unreimbursed partnership expenses to be subtracted from my
> K-1 income? If, for example, I can only take a percentage
> of monthly dues corresponding to percentage of logged
> business use, are the dues subject to the 50% business meals
> limitation. Can anybody point me to the specific IRS regs?


Club dues are not a deductible expense, just personal.
Business meals and tips are subject to the 50% limitation,
provided there is a business reason for the expense.
Transportation to get there is deductible.

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Old 09-23-2004, 02:16 AM
John H. Fisher
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- quote -

> I am a member of an LLP that requires me to belong to a
> social or dining club for purposes of entertaining
> clients/potential clients. I do not get reimbursed from the
> LLP for these expenses. I am complying with the LLP by
> joining a country club. Can I take either (i) initiation
> fee; (ii) monthly dues; and/or (iii) related expenses as
> unreimbursed partnership expenses to be subtracted from my
> K-1 income? If, for example, I can only take a percentage
> of monthly dues corresponding to percentage of logged
> business use, are the dues subject to the 50% business meals
> limitation. Can anybody point me to the specific IRS regs?


NO, yes, maybe!!!= It depends:

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p463/ch02.html#d0e1944

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Old 09-22-2004, 02:24 AM
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Default Unreimbursed Partnership Expense - Club Dues

I am a member of an LLP that requires me to belong to a
social or dining club for purposes of entertaining
clients/potential clients. I do not get reimbursed from the
LLP for these expenses. I am complying with the LLP by
joining a country club. Can I take either (i) initiation
fee; (ii) monthly dues; and/or (iii) related expenses as
unreimbursed partnership expenses to be subtracted from my
K-1 income? If, for example, I can only take a percentage
of monthly dues corresponding to percentage of logged
business use, are the dues subject to the 50% business meals
limitation. Can anybody point me to the specific IRS regs?

Thanks

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