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| Gene E. Utterback, EA wrote: - quote - > Don't you also need to be mindful of distributions/dividends
Well, I intentionally "simplified" the example by not making> paid after going from an S to a C if there were AAA amounts > available to distribute? I know if a C corp elects S status > AND has Accumulated E&P we have to watch for distributions > in excess of AAA which would cut into E&P and which could be > taxable dividends to the recipients. But what about > distributions from AAA after going from S to C? I don't > recall seeing any guidance on how to treat that hoop. distributions to concentrate solely on basis. However, IRC Section 1371(e) provides that you are allowed to distribute the AAA during the post-termination transition period (as defined by Section 1377(b)(1)(A)). After that point, the AAA becomes essentially irrelevant in the C corporation. Exhaust E&P and then any excess becomes a return of basis or, if basis is exhausted, a capital gain. Since "nondividend" distributions from an S corporation reduce basis and then become capital gains, what that period really does is give you a short period where distributions *first* come out of AAA--then we revert to the standard C corporation rules. -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Ed Zollars, CPA" <ezollar[at]mindspring.com> wrote: - quote - > rscpa wrote:
Don't you also need to be mindful of distributions/dividends> > An S-corp with positive basis, unelects S status, after 5 > > years re-elects S status. What is the basis? Does it go > > back to the basis in its final year as an S-corp. > Go back? Why do you think it *changed* when the corporation > terminated its S election? You would use that basis as > starting point for computing basis during the C corporation > period. > Basis is something a shareholder has, not something internal > to the corporation. > For example, you start a corporation, contribute $1`,000 for > stock and elect S status immediately. The corporation shows > $1,000 in income and makes no distributions for the first > year. Basis is $2,000. It terminates the election at the > beginning of year 2. > For years 2-6, it also earns $1,000, makes no distributions > and there are no contributions of capital. In year 7, it > again picks up S status and again earns $1,000 with no > distributions or contributions. > Basis, which began at $1,000 is as follows at the end of each year: > Yr Basis Type > 1 $2,000 S > 2 $2,000 C > 3 $2,000 C > 4 $2,000 C > 5 $2,000 C > 6 $2,000 C > 7 $3,000 S paid after going from an S to a C if there were AAA amounts available to distribute? I know if a C corp elects S status AND has Accumulated E&P we have to watch for distributions in excess of AAA which would cut into E&P and which could be taxable dividends to the recipients. But what about distributions from AAA after going from S to C? I don't recall seeing any guidance on how to treat that hoop. Gene E. Utterback, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| rscpa wrote: - quote - > An S-corp with positive basis, unelects S status, after 5
Go back? Why do you think it *changed* when the corporation> years re-elects S status. What is the basis? Does it go > back to the basis in its final year as an S-corp. terminated its S election? You would use that basis as starting point for computing basis during the C corporation period. Basis is something a shareholder has, not something internal to the corporation. For example, you start a corporation, contribute $1`,000 for stock and elect S status immediately. The corporation shows $1,000 in income and makes no distributions for the first year. Basis is $2,000. It terminates the election at the beginning of year 2. For years 2-6, it also earns $1,000, makes no distributions and there are no contributions of capital. In year 7, it again picks up S status and again earns $1,000 with no distributions or contributions. Basis, which began at $1,000 is as follows at the end of each year: Yr Basis Type 1 $2,000 S 2 $2,000 C 3 $2,000 C 4 $2,000 C 5 $2,000 C 6 $2,000 C 7 $3,000 S -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "rscpa" <rrscotts[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > An S-corp with positive basis, unelects S status, after 5
Well it doesn't "go back", it is simply frozen during the> years re-elects S status. What is the basis? Does it go > back to the basis in its final year as an S-corp. final year of the first s election period barring any further capital contributions during the subsequent c period. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| An S-corp with positive basis, unelects S status, after 5 years re-elects S status. What is the basis? Does it go back to the basis in its final year as an S-corp. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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