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Old 09-13-2004, 08:41 PM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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> > > > Any ideas for a C-corporation with a huge NOL? It is unlike
> > > > they will be getting any significant revenue. It's a
> > > > start-up with a lot of expenses, but no sales.


> > > If you want to get creative, maybe somebody would be willing
> > > to buy all the stock of that corporation so they can turn it
> > > into a profitable company and use up the NOL.


> > And ignore the §382 limitations on change of ownership?


> The company could file for bankruptcy in which case §382
> doesn't apply.


Since when did bankruptcy enter the equation? Simply having
a large NOL doesn't mean the company is insolvent. For all
we know the company was funded solely through stock and
equity. If the net worth is positive and there is little to
no debt, what would filing for bankruptcy accomplish?

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David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 09-13-2004, 08:41 PM
Brian
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> > > > Any ideas for a C-corporation with a huge NOL?
> > > > It is unlike they will be getting any significant
> > > > revenue. It's a start-up with a lot of expenses,
> > > > but no sales.


> > > If you want to get creative, maybe somebody would be
> > > willing to buy all the stock of that corporation so
> > > they can turn it into a profitable company and use up
> > > the NOL.


> > And ignore the §382 limitations on change of
> > ownership?


Robert J. Romano, CPA wrote:

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> The company could file for bankruptcy in which case
> §382 doesn't apply.


For the section 382 limitation to not apply in bankruptcy,
control of the company must still end up with the pre-
bankruptcy shareholders and the pre-bankruptcy creditors. It
works about the same way as the normal 382 limits, but you
get to count the creditors who end up with part of the
company in tbe bankruptcy as part of the pre-bankruptcy
control group. It would be hard to use these rules as a
way to sell the company off for value other than in pretty
limited circumstances.

Brian Bivona, CPA

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Old 09-11-2004, 02:26 AM
Robert J. Romano, CPA
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> > > Any ideas for a C-corporation with a huge NOL? It is unlike
> > > they will be getting any significant revenue. It's a
> > > start-up with a lot of expenses, but no sales.


> > If you want to get creative, maybe somebody would be willing
> > to buy all the stock of that corporation so they can turn it
> > into a profitable company and use up the NOL.


> And ignore the §382 limitations on change of ownership?


The company could file for bankruptcy in which case §382
doesn't apply.

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Robert J. Romano, CPA
99 Massachusetts Avenue-Suite 4
Arlington, Massachusetts 02474-8600
www.romanocpa.com

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Old 09-09-2004, 03:30 PM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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"Robert J. Romano, CPA" <bob[at]romanocpa.com> wrote:

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> > Any ideas for a C-corporation with a huge NOL? It is unlike
> > they will be getting any significant revenue. It's a
> > start-up with a lot of expenses, but no sales.


> If you want to get creative, maybe somebody would be willing
> to buy all the stock of that corporation so they can turn it
> into a profitable company and use up the NOL.


And ignore the §382 limitations on change of ownership?

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David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 09-08-2004, 06:46 PM
Robert J. Romano, CPA
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> Any ideas for a C-corporation with a huge NOL? It is unlike
> they will be getting any significant revenue. It's a
> start-up with a lot of expenses, but no sales.


If you want to get creative, maybe somebody would be willing
to buy all the stock of that corporation so they can turn it
into a profitable company and use up the NOL.

--
Robert J. Romano, CPA
99 Massachusetts Avenue-Suite 4
Arlington, Massachusetts 02474-8600
www.romanocpa.com

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Old 09-08-2004, 04:51 PM
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"LKYPon" <lkypon[at]aol.com> wrote:

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> Any ideas for a C-corporation with a huge NOL? It is unlike
> they will be getting any significant revenue. It's a
> start-up with a lot of expenses, but no sales.


Need more info. When was it formed? What kind of business
did it do while generating such NOL? Is the owner(s)
generating any income in another type of company?, etc.

Mike Lewis, CPA

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Old 09-06-2004, 09:04 PM
Katie Jaques
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lkypon[at]aol.com (LKYPon) wrote:

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> Any ideas for a C-corporation with a huge NOL? It is unlike
> they will be getting any significant revenue. It's a
> start-up with a lot of expenses, but no sales.



It's probably not an NOL; it's probably start-up expenses, which are
not deductible but must be capitalized. The corporation can elect on
a timely filed return to amortize them over 60 months (IRC Sec. 195, I
think). Otherwise they are not deductible until the corporation
liquidates.

Katie in San Diego

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constitute legal or professional advice.

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Old 09-06-2004, 08:06 PM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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"LKYPon" <lkypon[at]aol.com> wrote:

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> Any ideas for a C-corporation with a huge NOL? It is unlike
> they will be getting any significant revenue. It's a
> start-up with a lot of expenses, but no sales.


Can you provide just a few more details? Seriously, there's
not much an NOL can do inside a corporation unless there is
income to offset it.

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David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 09-01-2004, 11:58 PM
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Default Corporation with large NOL

Any ideas for a C-corporation with a huge NOL? It is unlike
they will be getting any significant revenue. It's a
start-up with a lot of expenses, but no sales.

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