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Old 09-09-2004, 03:50 PM
Stuart Bronstein
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Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
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> brian wrote:

> > You might even try to get a corporation to host
> > the FAQ and a shell account for you.


> Is this what is known as a shell corporation?


No. But if you listen closely you can hear the ocean.

Stu

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Old 09-09-2004, 03:11 PM
Seth Breidbart
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Arthur Kamlet <ArtKamlet[at]aol.REMOVE.com> wrote:
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> Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote:

> > Problem #2: ISP
> > I started with Digex back in the early 90's. When Digex
> > ceased offering dial-up shells, I went Clark.net which got
> > bought out by Verio (the Borg of the ISP's). I got away
> > from Verio so fast that I deserve at least a Silver Medal.


> Maybe, but they've been getting pretty good at detecting drugs in
> your system :^)


> > I have been using Smart.net for about 4 years now. They
> > have merged with another company. I had a simple
> > question today as in what happened to this command I've
> > been using every day since I changed ISP's and got a Du'h.
> > Who knows of an ISP offering Shell Accounts?


> I've been happy with panix.com


So have I.

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> Pay a year in advance and it's discounted.

Shell only is $100/year (including email, a private
subdomain's worth of email addresses, Usenet, lynx, etc.)

- quote -

> I use panix only for shell stuff, and I telnet to panix from
> my "real ISP" which I'll admit is AOL.


Panix _is_ my real ISP. I ssh in from wherever I happen to
be (often via my own server).

Seth

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Old 09-08-2004, 06:07 PM
Nan Eklund
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I don't understand any of your technical problems but I do
understand that this is a WONDERFUL site. I am in 3
diabetic newsgroups and spend half my time weeding out the
shills, trolls, snake oil salesmen, purveyors of dirty
pictures, violent opinions on Bush or Kerry, religious
fights, and recently some kooks who insist on converting us
to iron supplements! PLEASE, get healthy and stay on top of
your ISP problems.

Nan, EA in Los Angeles

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Old 09-08-2004, 05:48 PM
Arthur L. Rubin
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brian wrote:

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> You might even try to get a corporation to host
> the FAQ and a shell account for you.


Is this what is known as a shell corporation?

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Old 09-06-2004, 09:23 PM
Adam H. Kerman
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Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote:

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> Who knows of an ISP offering Shell Accounts?

ripco.com is one of the original Chicago area ISPs and the last independent
one. They will offer shell accounts till the end of time. I've heard that
other Usenet moderators use it.

Maybe you can work out something with them as you don't need Chicago dialup.

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Old 09-06-2004, 09:23 PM
MTW
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Dick Adams wrote:

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> Problem #2: ISP
> [snip]
> Who knows of an ISP offering Shell Accounts?


You might look at: www.neadertech.com

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> Problem #3: FAQ
> [snip]
> I'd like some comments on the idea.


Since a number of other sites, including the IRS, offer FAQs, I
wonder if it is worth reinventing the wheel. Maybe compiling a
list of links would be a better way to go.

MTW

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Old 09-06-2004, 08:45 PM
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Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote:

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> Problem #1: Moderator slowness
> If I seem slow than normal, it's not because I have
> a heavier wofk load. My problem for the last ten
> years has been insomnia. The problem now is that my
> daily intake of pain killers is causing me to sleep
> 12-16 hours a day. I now understand Rush Limbaugh's
> problem.
> Problem #2: ISP
> I started with Digex back in the early 90's. When Digex
> ceased offering dial-up shells, I went Clark.net which got
> bought out by Verio (the Borg of the ISP's). I got away
> from Verio so fast that I deserve at least a Silver Medal.
> I have been using Smart.net for about 4 years now. They
> have merged with another company. I had a simple
> question today as in what happened to this command I've
> been using every day since I changed ISP's and got a Du'h.
> Who knows of an ISP offering Shell Accounts?



A shell account? I haven't had a shell account in years, and even
then they were rare. Your best bet would probably be to get a
broadband connection that allows you to have a server on your end and
set up your own machine for a shell account. That seems to be the way
most people have gone. You might even try to get a corporation to host
the FAQ and a shell account for you.

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> Problem #3: FAQ
> We have never really had an FAQ. My thoughts are to have
> people volunteer to write an FAQ on Sections and/or
> sub-sections and allow their advertsing/link/etc at the
> end of the FAQ. Don't start writing yet because I'd like
> a standard layout. I'd like some comments on the idea.



Writing by Code section or subsection is very difficult because it is
not obvious, even to many professionals, under which code section a
certain transaction or tax event falls. It might be better to have a
popular names index as the table of contents of the FAQ with
references to the Code sections contained therein.

There are certain sections and topics we would be very interested in
writing on if advertising is allowed.

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Old 09-06-2004, 08:26 PM
Han
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Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote in

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> Problem #2: ISP
> I started with Digex back in the early 90's. When Digex
> ceased offering dial-up shells, I went Clark.net which got
> bought out by Verio (the Borg of the ISP's). I got away
> from Verio so fast that I deserve at least a Silver Medal.
> I have been using Smart.net for about 4 years now. They
> have merged with another company. I had a simple
> question today as in what happened to this command I've
> been using every day since I changed ISP's and got a Du'h.
> Who knows of an ISP offering Shell Accounts?



AFAIK, Panix <http://www.panix.com/> still has shell accounts, and
reasonable prices. I know one of the people working there, but don't have
the knowledge to use their services.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

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Old 09-06-2004, 08:06 PM
Bryan Kellar
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Hi there!
"Dick Adams" <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote:

- quote -

> Problem #2: ISP
> I started with Digex back in the early 90's. When Digex
> ceased offering dial-up shells, I went Clark.net which got
> bought out by Verio (the Borg of the ISP's). I got away
> from Verio so fast that I deserve at least a Silver Medal.
> I have been using Smart.net for about 4 years now. They
> have merged with another company. I had a simple
> question today as in what happened to this command I've
> been using every day since I changed ISP's and got a Du'h.
> Who knows of an ISP offering Shell Accounts?


I don't know the details (and probably would not know what to ask if I did),
but my longtime ISP pacifier.com / iinet.com (one in the same) at
http://www.iinet.com/index.php seems to still have shell accounts.

The local owner that started the company back in the late 1980's is a
computer geek that has always catered to computer geeks -- and even after
selling the ISP to some national company a few years back, he bought it back
a year later -- the level of service has never gone away.

I hope they can be helpful.

Bryan

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Oregon Tax Help, Inc. Portland, Oregon
www.oregontaxhelp.com

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Old 09-06-2004, 07:47 PM
Arthur Kamlet
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Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote:

- quote -

> Problem #1: Moderator slowness
> If I seem slow than normal, it's not because I have
> a heavier wofk load. My problem for the last ten
> years has been insomnia. The problem now is that my
> daily intake of pain killers is causing me to sleep
> 12-16 hours a day. I now understand Rush Limbaugh's
> problem.
> Problem #2: ISP
> I started with Digex back in the early 90's. When Digex
> ceased offering dial-up shells, I went Clark.net which got
> bought out by Verio (the Borg of the ISP's). I got away
> from Verio so fast that I deserve at least a Silver Medal.


Maybe, but they've been getting pretty good at detecting drugs in
your system :^)

- quote -

> I have been using Smart.net for about 4 years now. They
> have merged with another company. I had a simple
> question today as in what happened to this command I've
> been using every day since I changed ISP's and got a Du'h.
> Who knows of an ISP offering Shell Accounts?


I've been happy with panix.com

Pay a year in advance and it's discounted.

I use panix only for shell stuff, and I telnet to panix from
my "real ISP" which I'll admit is AOL.

__
Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 09-06-2004, 07:47 PM
Katie Jaques
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Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote:

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> Problem #1: Moderator slowness
> If I seem slow than normal, it's not because I have
> a heavier wofk load. My problem for the last ten
> years has been insomnia. The problem now is that my
> daily intake of pain killers is causing me to sleep
> 12-16 hours a day. I now understand Rush Limbaugh's
> problem.


I'm so sorry you're so uncomfortable. It must be difficult
to keep everything going. I'm thinking of you.

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> Problem #2: ISP
> I started with Digex back in the early 90's. When Digex
> ceased offering dial-up shells, I went Clark.net which got
> bought out by Verio (the Borg of the ISP's). I got away
> from Verio so fast that I deserve at least a Silver Medal.
> I have been using Smart.net for about 4 years now. They
> have merged with another company. I had a simple
> question today as in what happened to this command I've
> been using every day since I changed ISP's and got a Du'h.
> Who knows of an ISP offering Shell Accounts?


I'm no help here.

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> Problem #3: FAQ
> We have never really had an FAQ. My thoughts are to have
> people volunteer to write an FAQ on Sections and/or
> sub-sections and allow their advertsing/link/etc at the
> end of the FAQ. Don't start writing yet because I'd like
> a standard layout. I'd like some comments on the idea.


Are you thinking of tax-technical FAQs? Or newsgroup-procedural
items? Or both?

Katie in San Diego

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taxpayers and an ever increasing pool of tax practitioners.
This means two FAQ's: one for taxpayers and another for
Tax practitioners Maybe you can parse this out better -
remember "I is an auditor."

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Old 09-06-2004, 07:28 PM
Stuart Bronstein
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Dick Adams wrote:

- quote -

> Problem #2: ISP
> I started with Digex back in the early 90's. When Digex
> ceased offering dial-up shells, I went Clark.net which got
> bought out by Verio (the Borg of the ISP's). I got away
> from Verio so fast that I deserve at least a Silver Medal.
> I have been using Smart.net for about 4 years now. They
> have merged with another company. I had a simple
> question today as in what happened to this command I've
> been using every day since I changed ISP's and got a Du'h.
> Who knows of an ISP offering Shell Accounts?


I preferred my old shell account, too. I had my original
account for several years before they went all to hell.
Then I tried three or four more companies that offered shell
accounts, and they were all horrible, too (including
Verio!).

But isp's are getting out of that business because they
prefer not to have people diddling with their machines.
When you have a shell account, you actually become a node on
their computer. They think that makes them vulnerable to
attack (and it does).

I finally had to go over to a company giving a regular
account with dsl. It's not the shell, but everything
considered it's not too bad.

Stu

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Old 09-01-2004, 09:44 PM
Dick Adams
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Problem #1: Moderator slowness
If I seem slow than normal, it's not because I have
a heavier wofk load. My problem for the last ten
years has been insomnia. The problem now is that my
daily intake of pain killers is causing me to sleep
12-16 hours a day. I now understand Rush Limbaugh's
problem.

Problem #2: ISP
I started with Digex back in the early 90's. When Digex
ceased offering dial-up shells, I went Clark.net which got
bought out by Verio (the Borg of the ISP's). I got away
from Verio so fast that I deserve at least a Silver Medal.
I have been using Smart.net for about 4 years now. They
have merged with another company. I had a simple
question today as in what happened to this command I've
been using every day since I changed ISP's and got a Du'h.
Who knows of an ISP offering Shell Accounts?

Problem #3: FAQ
We have never really had an FAQ. My thoughts are to have
people volunteer to write an FAQ on Sections and/or
sub-sections and allow their advertsing/link/etc at the
end of the FAQ. Don't start writing yet because I'd like
a standard layout. I'd like some comments on the idea.

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