Missy Doyle wrote:
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Heck, I don't even give them a choice. I merely look over
at husband while my right hand fingers are doing the ramdom
walk on the keypad and mention that was his pin; then same
for his wife. If either asks what is the number I reply "I
don't know. I'll print it out on your file copy however."
And they smile and I smile and that's that.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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For shame! This is not in the spirit of making the client
think that the PIN means something!

The local IRS walk-in office uses "12345" for all clients
that I have seen. (The IRS doesn't do state taxes; their
clients bring their federal returns to the VITA/TCE site to
complete the job.)

My own clients all seem to choose their zip code.

--
Don EA in Upstate NY

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belsak_cpa[at]msn.com (KenB) wrote:
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I give my clients a choice, but if they leave the space
blank on the questionaire, I assign them a number.

Missy Doyle

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I was drug kicking in screaming into e-filing (california)
and had to learn real fast how to efile (on top of losing my
husband/business partner) in Feb. I learned how to do the
8453 way first and never really had a chance to catch my
breathe to learn a different way.

Beth

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KenB wrote:

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For one thing, it imposes a different, longer record
retention requirement that would not apply if you didn't use
that method.

MTW

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"Beth" <knuckles145[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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Why would anyone not use the PIN method? That was the
enhancement that finally placed me strongly in the E-filer
category.

Of course I lost some time with the first clients as they
carefully settled on their perfect PIN number. Quickly I
realized it was far more efficient for me to arbitrarily
assign the PIN number, subject to their acknowledgement (I
use a variation of the numerical address). Remember this is
not an acccess PIN: It is simply the number authorized as
suubstitute for an original signature. The client
acknowledges by signing Form 8879 which is for my files. I
have never had a client disagree with the PIN selected by
me.

Ken Belsak CPA

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Not unusual in the least.

Helen, EA in PA
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October 1 to October 3, 2004
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"Wcm7315" <wcm7315[at]aol.com> wrote:

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this year was my first efiling and I used the 8453. Just
got a notice about two that were missing. (so this is not
unusual??) I'm thinking about switching to the PIN method
next year.

Beth

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Well, I received my annual request from the IRS for a couple
8453's again this morning. Every year they are missing 2 or
3 (out of 250 or so filed), which I know have been sent. So
I'll just make a copy and send them again. I think the IRS
knows it's their problem. Otherwise, they'd be penalizing me
for not sending them, since it's obviously long past due!!
I'm going with the PIN next year and avoid all this paper.
Will

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