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| "Bryan Kellar" <bryan[at]oregontaxhelp.com> wrote: - quote - > "HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
Actually moving the money from one account to another is> > Person has brokerage account in London. Lives in US but has > > UK citizenship. > > 1. If he retains UK citizenship and transfers account to US > > (sells and transfers), what is tax consequence? > Skip Weldon wrote: > The sale would be a taxable event. Moving money or stock > from one account to another is not a taxable event for a US > resident, even from one country to another. also probably a taxable event. The UK brokerage account is presumably denominated in pounds while the US account is presumably denominated in dollars. One of those would be deemed to be the "functional currency" and one of them the "nonfunctional currency." Whichever account is the non-functional currency is treated sort of like a commodity. Assume the US dollar is deemed to be the functional currency. Assume further that the stocks in the brokerage account are sold for $1,000,000 pounds and that on that day the exchange rate is $1.80 US to 1 UK Pound. The basis of funds in the account becomes $1,800,000. Assume that the funds sit there for 1 month until the exchange rate is $1.83, and are then transferred to the U.S. brokerage account. At that point they would normally be converted from pounds to dollars. The funds in the UK account denominated in pounds are treated as a commodity with a basis of $1,000,000 that is being exchanged for cash of $1,830,000. This results in a $30,000 taxable gain. Under section 988, the gain would be taxable as ordinary income. Unless the sale in the UK account and the conversion to dollars is simultaneous, there will likely be some tax consequences to the movement of the funds from the UK account to the US account. Brian Bivona, CPA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Person has brokerage account in London. Lives in US but has
The sale would be a taxable event. Moving money or stock> UK citizenship. > 1. If he retains UK citizenship and transfers account to US > (sells and transfers), what is tax consequence? from one account to another is not a taxable event for a US resident, even from one country to another. - quote - > 2. If he becomes US citizen before selling and transferring,
Actual US citizenship will make no difference. US is going> what is tax consequence? by whether they are resident here if the taxpayer is a foreigner. If he is living here, he is likely already being taxed as a resident here. (meaning on a 1040, on his worldwide income, etc.) OTOH, if somehow he were a resident elsewhere, and had been granted US citizenship overseas, then he would need to start paying US tax at that time. But that is not the usual situation. - quote - > (My guess is that he owes US tax either way, but that if UK
Yes, that would be the case.> also taxes, he gets an offset against US.) Bryan -- -------- Bryan Kellar, EA Oregon Tax Help, Inc. Portland, Oregon www.oregontaxhelp.com www.canadatax.org << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Person has brokerage account in London. Lives in US but has
No US consequence.> UK citizenship. > 1. If he retains UK citizenship and transfers account to US > (sells and transfers), what is tax consequence? - quote - > 2. If he becomes US citizen before selling and transferring,
Same as if he were not.> what is tax consequence? - quote - > (My guess is that he owes US tax either way, but that if UK
I assume this is a resident for tax purposes, in which case> also taxes, he gets an offset against US.) what he does has the same consequences as it does for you and I. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Person has brokerage account in London. Lives in US but has UK citizenship. 1. If he retains UK citizenship and transfers account to US (sells and transfers), what is tax consequence? 2. If he becomes US citizen before selling and transferring, what is tax consequence? (My guess is that he owes US tax either way, but that if UK also taxes, he gets an offset against US.) -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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