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| AK wrote: - quote - > That sounds like another situation where someone gets a tax
I'm not sure that would apply here. A taxpayer who receives> bill (the K1 in this case) without the right to see what > factual basis is behind the claim. File a form 8275 with IRS > explaining that the K1 may not be factual and since there > was no distribution, the "income" will not be reported until > some real proof of income is shown. IRS needs to work on > 1099s and K1s being sent out in situations where there are > no actual distributions and the companies fail to provide > proof of the supposed income. a 1099MISC can know that they were never paid and therefore it is reasonable to ask the IRS to go beyond a 1099. As well, the backup for these payments would generally be relatively simple--copies of checks and payments to the taxpayer However, someone receiving a K-1 from a partnership doesn't have that same knowledge--the question is whether income was properly computed at the partnership level and whether the taxpayer's interest was properly computed. Note that a state court most likely *would* decide the partner did have certain rights to an accounting. But I strongly doubt that the Tax Court would decide that every partner has a right to require a full blown IRS exam of any passthrough entity. -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Ed Zollars, CPA" <ezollar[at]mindspring.com> wrote: - quote - > Cheryl wrote:
.....> > A friend of mine separated from her husband (now divorced) > > at the end of 2003. They were members (2 of 3 or 4) in a > > small LLC. She never rec'd any money from the business > > during the year but rec'd a K-1 for her share of the > > profits. He will not talk to her or let her see the books > > or the entire tax return. She filed an extension for this > > year until she can figure out what to do. She cannot afford > > the taxes. What are her options? > Well, the problem is that the result is perfectly possible, > since as a partner she picks up her share of the income > whether or not it is distributed. It is just possible that > the operating agreement doesn't require pro-rata > distributions on an annual basis, so the "unwelcome partner" > could be frozen out. That sounds like another situation where someone gets a tax bill (the K1 in this case) without the right to see what factual basis is behind the claim. File a form 8275 with IRS explaining that the K1 may not be factual and since there was no distribution, the "income" will not be reported until some real proof of income is shown. IRS needs to work on 1099s and K1s being sent out in situations where there are no actual distributions and the companies fail to provide proof of the supposed income. ak << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Cheryl wrote: - quote - > A friend of mine separated from her husband (now divorced)
Unless she formally withdrew from the LLC, the profits are> at the end of 2003. They were members (2 of 3 or 4) in a > small LLC. She never rec'd any money from the business > during the year but rec'd a K-1 for her share of the > profits. He will not talk to her or let her see the books > or the entire tax return. She filed an extension for this > year until she can figure out what to do. She cannot afford > the taxes. What are her options? her share , plus the associated taxes. However I think a lawyer would say she has a cause of action against her former hubby. She certainly DOES have a right to see the books, in fact, the usual operating agreement of the LLC should specify this. She does have a copy of the operating agreement, doesn't she? ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > A friend of mine separated from her husband (now divorced)
Have her contact the attorney who handled the divorce. The> at the end of 2003. They were members (2 of 3 or 4) in a > small LLC. She never rec'd any money from the business > during the year but rec'd a K-1 for her share of the > profits. He will not talk to her or let her see the books > or the entire tax return. She filed an extension for this > year until she can figure out what to do. She cannot afford > the taxes. What are her options? LLC should have been covered in the filing. Bruce Raskin, CPA Small Business and Individual Tax and Accounting Services << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Cheryl" <cherylfdgm[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > A friend of mine separated from her husband (now divorced)
Get an attorney to force the issue. If the numbers are> at the end of 2003. They were members (2 of 3 or 4) in a > small LLC. She never rec'd any money from the business > during the year but rec'd a K-1 for her share of the > profits. He will not talk to her or let her see the books > or the entire tax return. She filed an extension for this > year until she can figure out what to do. She cannot afford > the taxes. What are her options? accurate, she pays the tax. Whether she received cash has nothing to do with her reporting her share of LLC income. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Cheryl wrote: - quote - > A friend of mine separated from her husband (now divorced)
Well, the problem is that the result is perfectly possible,> at the end of 2003. They were members (2 of 3 or 4) in a > small LLC. She never rec'd any money from the business > during the year but rec'd a K-1 for her share of the > profits. He will not talk to her or let her see the books > or the entire tax return. She filed an extension for this > year until she can figure out what to do. She cannot afford > the taxes. What are her options? since as a partner she picks up her share of the income whether or not it is distributed. It is just possible that the operating agreement doesn't require pro-rata distributions on an annual basis, so the "unwelcome partner" could be frozen out. In that case, the key issue will be to find out what options she has under local law as a member of the LLC. I think the key issue is to get to an attorney involved who can force the issue a bit--it's very possible that she is facing a "homebrew" strategy from her ex who is trying to use the tax code. If she has an attorney, see if the attorney is aware of the problem and seems "up to speed" on the tax issues. They may need to bring in both some tax expertise and someones skilled in local LLC law to break this logjam. -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > A friend of mine separated from her husband (now divorced)
Has she consulted her divorce attorney??? Probably that> at the end of 2003. They were members (2 of 3 or 4) in a > small LLC. She never rec'd any money from the business > during the year but rec'd a K-1 for her share of the > profits. He will not talk to her or let her see the books > or the entire tax return. She filed an extension for this > year until she can figure out what to do. She cannot afford > the taxes. What are her options? would be the best way to handle it. Immediately, she can request additional time in order for her to file a complete and accurate return. To apply for an additional extension either write a letter to the IRS or file Form 2688 (PDF), Application for Additional Extension of Time To File U.S. Individual Income Tax Return. If one is issued a Bogus K-1, I'd suggest that it could be fraud. If you are certain that is the case, and you believe someone is violating federal tax laws, you should contact the IRS at (800) 829-0433, the Criminal Investigation Hotline. If you prefer, you can provide your information in writing to the Criminal Investigation Branch at the service center where you file your return. Refer to your tax package for the address of your service center. Although you are not required to identify yourself, it is helpful to do so. Your identity will be kept confidential. You may also be entitled to a reward. Of course, if there is anything in your prior returns which could jeopardize your position, I'd be very careful before going there. Again, engaging the services of an attorney is likely best. "Jack" - John H. Fisher - TaxService[at]aol.com Philadelphia, Pa - Atlantic City, NJ - West Wildwood, NJ My Newsgroups & Boards at: http://members.aol.com/TaxService/index.html Where Ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise!= ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A friend of mine separated from her husband (now divorced) at the end of 2003. They were members (2 of 3 or 4) in a small LLC. She never rec'd any money from the business during the year but rec'd a K-1 for her share of the profits. He will not talk to her or let her see the books or the entire tax return. She filed an extension for this year until she can figure out what to do. She cannot afford the taxes. What are her options? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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