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| <foqeh[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Starting from beginning of tax year 2003 my wife and I lived
I believe the answer to the question is going to lie in> separately (going through divorce now) and my wife meets all > 5 tests to file as HoH (we have two kids that live with her) > for the year 2003. Since we were still married on Dec 31 I > have to file MFS (as I understand). We do not have > separation agreement in force yet and we are not in a > community property state. Since there is a major difference > in various deduction limits between MFS and HoH I need to > know how much freedom do we have in allocating certain > non-obvious income and assets specifically: > 1. AMT credit generated by cash exercice of my ISO stock > options in years prior to 2003 (The shares are to be split > 50/50 between two of us). > 2. AMT liability for year 2003 for my cash exercise of ISO > stock options. (Again the shares to be split 50/50). > 3. Capital loss carryover (large in our case) from assets > aquired during marriage. which of you owns the assets that you are reporting on the tax return. The capital loss carryover will depend upon whose shares were sold to create a carryover (yours, hers, or joint). If they were held jointly, then you split the carryover 50-50. Since you refer to "your" ISO stock options, and they are not hers yet (although they "will" be split), then I would think the AMT liability and credit belongs to you. This one might be worth a bit of research on how it has been dealt with before. After looking around a little bit, I suspect that any tax benefit related to the shares will be proportionally distributed. But beyond that, this will become a research project. Bryan -------- Bryan Kellar, EA Oregon Tax Help, Inc. Portland, Oregon www.oregontaxhelp.com www.canadatax.org << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| foqeh[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > I know that it is best to search professional advice but so
This is not surprising. While it is always dangerous to> far I have not been successful in finding local CPA familiar > with MFS/HoH pecularities. One of the three guys I've > contacted told me that under no circumstances married person > can file HoH (which is not true), the others honestly > admitted they are not very familiar with this situation. generalize, I'd guess that most CPAs tend to specialize in OTHER areas of the tax code, such as businesses, rental properties or investments. For questions related to filing status or dependency issues, you would probably be better off to look for a "retail/storefront" type of tax practice, preferably headed by someone with at least an EA credential and/or several years of experience. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| <foqeh[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Starting from beginning of tax year 2003 my wife and I lived
First, I don't see any way for you to allocate AMT> separately (going through divorce now) and my wife meets all > 5 tests to file as HoH (we have two kids that live with her) > for the year 2003. Since we were still married on Dec 31 I > have to file MFS (as I understand). We do not have > separation agreement in force yet and we are not in a > community property state. Since there is a major difference > in various deduction limits between MFS and HoH I need to > know how much freedom do we have in allocating certain > non-obvious income and assets specifically: > 1. AMT credit generated by cash exercice of my ISO stock > options in years prior to 2003 (The shares are to be split > 50/50 between two of us). > 2. AMT liability for year 2003 for my cash exercise of ISO > stock options. (Again the shares to be split 50/50). > 3. Capital loss carryover (large in our case) from assets > aquired during marriage. > I know that it is best to search professional advice but so > far I have not been succesful in finding local CPA familiar > with MFS/HoH pecularities. One of the three guys I've > contacted told me that under no circumstances married person > can file HoH (which is not true), the others honestly > admitted they are not very familiar with this situation. > Please help... liabilities - these are the direct result of the items shown on a particular return. If you exercised ISO options on your 2003 then this item goes on your 2003 return, not hers, and you get to deal with the AMT issue, not her - regardless of the fact that you will be splitting the shares later. Second, I have never had to deal with trying to allocate an AMT credit so I'm not positive of how it would work without researching it - that's the caveat. However, since the credit arose on a joint return filed in a noncommunity property state I would think that the credit would have to follow the source. Since it was generated as a result of YOUR activity, it would be your credit and I don't think it should be allocated. Third, look to the title or registration of the account. Accounts in your name with losses are yours, accounts in her name are hers, accounts that are title to both of you should be split according to how you split any remaining assets in the account. Again, the caveat here is that I would have to research these items before I could give you an opinion you could hang your hat on, I'm just sharing what my gut says is right. Gene E. Utterback, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Starting from beginning of tax year 2003 my wife and I lived separately (going through divorce now) and my wife meets all 5 tests to file as HoH (we have two kids that live with her) for the year 2003. Since we were still married on Dec 31 I have to file MFS (as I understand). We do not have separation agreement in force yet and we are not in a community property state. Since there is a major difference in various deduction limits between MFS and HoH I need to know how much freedom do we have in allocating certain non-obvious income and assets specifically: 1. AMT credit generated by cash exercice of my ISO stock options in years prior to 2003 (The shares are to be split 50/50 between two of us). 2. AMT liability for year 2003 for my cash exercise of ISO stock options. (Again the shares to be split 50/50). 3. Capital loss carryover (large in our case) from assets aquired during marriage. I know that it is best to search professional advice but so far I have not been succesful in finding local CPA familiar with MFS/HoH pecularities. One of the three guys I've contacted told me that under no circumstances married person can file HoH (which is not true), the others honestly admitted they are not very familiar with this situation. Please help... << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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