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| MTW wrote: - quote - > But in my part of the country that would likely be a bump
judge that it doesn't increase the value, since I presume> DOWNWARD. Although pools might be an "asset" in Phoenix, > they are more likely a "liability" in Seattle. This simply > points out the problem with these "increase in FMV" > provisions in the code, especially if none of the Tax Court > judges come from Seattle (and an ACTUAL APPRAISAL isn't > required). <g I suspect it wouldn't be difficult to convince a Tax Court you could present an endless number of individual experts who would testify to this fact in the Seattle market. Your bigger problem would more likely be with the IRS agent who just transferred into Seattle from out of state <grin> . Kind of like years ago when we had a married filing separate return and got stuck with an agent that just moved into the area from the Midwest who initially believe our explanation of the impact of community property on the return obviously could *not* be the way it worked. We were able to convince the agent to talk to others at the IRS who had been around the state for a while to confirm we really weren't making this up <grin> . - quote - > Or, are we saying that a "repair" can never be an
Given the IRS's apparent exam position on repairs vs.> "improvement" for medical expense purposes? improvements, they wouldn't seem to initially have a problem <grin> . However, the court likely would note that these are different issues, and the testing wouldn't need to be the same. The issue for repair vs. improvements derive from the IRS regulations in that area, while the medical matter has developed under its own regulations and case law. -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Ed Zollars, CPA wrote: - quote - > In some cases that's no problem--the improvement may be one
But in my part of the country that would likely be a bump> that actually makes the property less valuable (such as > adding an elevator that takes up substantial room in a home > for a disabled individual--buyers may reasonably prefer the > property *without* that device to get back the room) or at > least no more valuable. But in other cases (adding a pool > is the prime example), there is going to be a "bump" in the > property value. DOWNWARD. Although pools might be an "asset" in Phoenix, they are more likely a "liability" in Seattle. This simply points out the problem with these "increase in FMV" provisions in the code, especially if none of the Tax Court judges come from Seattle (and an ACTUAL APPRAISAL isn't required). <g And, just to make sure we're all thoroughly confused <g> , I gather that for the purpose of the medical deduction we measure the FMV of the property BEFORE the improvement is made. I would contrast this with the "repair vs. capital" issue where the starting point is apparently measured AFTER the repair is made (or, at least, on a hypothetical basis as if the repair wasn't necessary). Or, are we saying that a "repair" can never be an "improvement" for medical expense purposes? MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > Done what Helen. Taken the deduction or removed the mold? <gr
Clorox works!David, dear, taken the deduction. I have also removed mold, Helen, EA in PA 50 miles, 3 days, 1 cause - Multiple Sclerosis Challenge Walk for the Cure October 1 to October 3, 2004 Donate on-line at www.msandyou.org << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| smithff33[at]aol.com (Herb Smith) wrote: - quote - > taxingmatters[at]zoominternet.net (Nanette) wrote:
The lead paint info is from Rev. Rul. 79-66.> > I have a client who was recently diagnosed with mold induced > > respiratory problems. The clients home has been found to > > have unacceptable levels of a type of mold that recently has > > been identified as causing respiratory problems etc. Her > > doctor told her (obviously), that she needs to have all of > > the mold in her home removed by a certified contractor. The > > doctor is confident that her problems ARE caused by this > > mold problem. Clients insurance company won't cover these > > repairs as there is not an INCIDENT that caused the mold. > > That being said, with documentation from the doctor saying > > her condition was caused by the mold, as well as his > > recommendations of removing the problem, would you take the > > deduction as a qualified medical expense. It will not add > > any value to her home. I realize she has to meet the 7.5% > > threshold, which she will. I wanted to post this issue to > > get feedback from the rest of the group, as well as get the > > question out there, as mold has become such a nuissance to > > many people recently. > I would go for it as a medical deduction. The removal of > lead-based paint is already accepted by the IRS under this > classification (but not the repainting). I believe a case > could also be made for asbestos abaatement and actions > related to reduce radon buildup in your basement, as these > are recognized health hazards. As long as the doctor is > willing to attest that the condition is a health hazard to > the homeowner, then any actions necessary to reduce the > hazard are deductible as a medical expense. Drew Edmundson, CPA (NC) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > I have a client who was recently diagnosed with mold induced
Done what Helen. Taken the deduction or removed the mold? <gr> > respiratory problems. The clients home has been found to > > have unacceptable levels of a type of mold that recently has > > been identified as causing respiratory problems etc. Her > > doctor told her (obviously), that she needs to have all of > > the mold in her home removed by a certified contractor. The > > doctor is confident that her problems ARE caused by this > > mold problem. Clients insurance company won't cover these > > repairs as there is not an INCIDENT that caused the mold. > > That being said, with documentation from the doctor saying > > her condition was caused by the mold, as well as his > > recommendations of removing the problem, would you take the > > deduction as a qualified medical expense. It will not add > > any value to her home. I realize she has to meet the 7.5% > > threshold, which she will. I wanted to post this issue to > > get feedback from the rest of the group, as well as get the > > question out there, as mold has become such a nuissance to > > many people recently. > I've done it and never a problem. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Nanette wrote: - quote - > I wanted to post this issue to
Well, generally any "improvements" to a residence or other> get feedback from the rest of the group, as well as get the > question out there, as mold has become such a nuissance to > many people recently. personal asset that are medically necessary are deductible only to the extent the cost of the improvement exceeds the increase in the fair market value of the property from having made the improvement. In some cases that's no problem--the improvement may be one that actually makes the property less valuable (such as adding an elevator that takes up substantial room in a home for a disabled individual--buyers may reasonably prefer the property *without* that device to get back the room) or at least no more valuable. But in other cases (adding a pool is the prime example), there is going to be a "bump" in the property value. The issue would be that a house with this mold problem is going to be worth less on the market than a house rid of the problem--pretty sure to be true, especially if it's clear a prospective buyer would know about the problem (and they almost certainly would). So, the IRS could argue, the cost of removing the mold and replacing items must be balanced against the increase in value of the residence. -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| taxingmatters[at]zoominternet.net (Nanette) wrote: - quote - > I have a client who was recently diagnosed with mold induced
I would go for it as a medical deduction. The removal of> respiratory problems. The clients home has been found to > have unacceptable levels of a type of mold that recently has > been identified as causing respiratory problems etc. Her > doctor told her (obviously), that she needs to have all of > the mold in her home removed by a certified contractor. The > doctor is confident that her problems ARE caused by this > mold problem. Clients insurance company won't cover these > repairs as there is not an INCIDENT that caused the mold. > That being said, with documentation from the doctor saying > her condition was caused by the mold, as well as his > recommendations of removing the problem, would you take the > deduction as a qualified medical expense. It will not add > any value to her home. I realize she has to meet the 7.5% > threshold, which she will. I wanted to post this issue to > get feedback from the rest of the group, as well as get the > question out there, as mold has become such a nuissance to > many people recently. lead-based paint is already accepted by the IRS under this classification (but not the repainting). I believe a case could also be made for asbestos abaatement and actions related to reduce radon buildup in your basement, as these are recognized health hazards. As long as the doctor is willing to attest that the condition is a health hazard to the homeowner, then any actions necessary to reduce the hazard are deductible as a medical expense. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Did some research on 2 clients but both were so many years ago I can't locate the cites any more. That being said: 1) took a medical deduction for the cost of removing a tree from the yard of a newly purchased home. The tree had pollen and the client had asthma. 2) took costs of ramps, widening doorways, removing and replacing carpet ruined by the door replacement - for a very large client in a very large wheelchair. The client, by the way, told me not to worry about audits as the local IRS office didn't have wheelchair accessible facilities. (He'd been audited there once and sat out in front of the building and yelled. Strange man.....but no problems with his huge medical deduction.) Nan, (actually Nanette), EA in LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I have a client who was recently diagnosed with mold induced
I've done it and never a problem.> respiratory problems. The clients home has been found to > have unacceptable levels of a type of mold that recently has > been identified as causing respiratory problems etc. Her > doctor told her (obviously), that she needs to have all of > the mold in her home removed by a certified contractor. The > doctor is confident that her problems ARE caused by this > mold problem. Clients insurance company won't cover these > repairs as there is not an INCIDENT that caused the mold. > That being said, with documentation from the doctor saying > her condition was caused by the mold, as well as his > recommendations of removing the problem, would you take the > deduction as a qualified medical expense. It will not add > any value to her home. I realize she has to meet the 7.5% > threshold, which she will. I wanted to post this issue to > get feedback from the rest of the group, as well as get the > question out there, as mold has become such a nuissance to > many people recently. Helen, EA in PA 50 miles, 3 days, 1 cause - Multiple Sclerosis Challenge Walk for the Cure October 1 to October 3, 2004 Donate on-line at www.msandyou.org << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I have a client who was recently diagnosed with mold induced respiratory problems. The clients home has been found to have unacceptable levels of a type of mold that recently has been identified as causing respiratory problems etc. Her doctor told her (obviously), that she needs to have all of the mold in her home removed by a certified contractor. The doctor is confident that her problems ARE caused by this mold problem. Clients insurance company won't cover these repairs as there is not an INCIDENT that caused the mold. That being said, with documentation from the doctor saying her condition was caused by the mold, as well as his recommendations of removing the problem, would you take the deduction as a qualified medical expense. It will not add any value to her home. I realize she has to meet the 7.5% threshold, which she will. I wanted to post this issue to get feedback from the rest of the group, as well as get the question out there, as mold has become such a nuissance to many people recently. Thank you, Nanette << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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