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Income to the PARENT not the son.> > > my very nice house so I figure I'll pay off his loan so he > > > doesn't have any interest and he can pay me a little each > > > month. Now, if I write a check to the bank that loaned him > > > the money, would I have to pay taxes on that check? What if > > > I just gave him the money in cash or a check to his bank? > > > Would I pay taxes on that? Is there any possible way to > > > deduct this gift since I just sold my house and have to pay > > > plenty in taxes already. > > If you sold your house, and made over $250,000 profit > > ($500,000 if married filing jointly) and you had lived in it > > for 2 out of the 5 years prior to its sale, you'll owe no > > tax and won't even have to report the sale on your federal > > tax return. You may give your son up to $11,000, each year, > > without any gift tax consequences. You may give an > > additional $11,000 to any # of beneficiaries (his wife, > > children, etc) without there being any gift tax > > consequences. If you exceed the $11K amount, for any > > beneficiary, you'd have to file a gift tax return. If taxes > > ever become due, it is you who would have to pay them. > > Unless your estate, and lifetime giving exceed $1,500,000 > > (if I remember correctly, under current law) there will be > > no gift tax to pay. Gifts are not deductible unless they > > are made to organized charities. > If not a gift, would not the IRS consider the imputed > interest that you son pays on the loan income to him, if the > interest rate is less than the market rate? -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Howard Kaikow" <kaikow[at]standards.com> wrote: [snip] - quote - > If not a gift, would not the IRS consider the imputed
Thought the imputed interest would be considered (1) taxable> interest that you son pays on the loan income to him, if the > interest rate is less than the market rate? income to the father, and (2) taxable gift from father to son. There are cutoffs of $10,000 or $100,000, depending on whether the son has investment income, that may allow the loan to be ignored. It gets messier if the loan isn't structured as a demand loan: then the interest over the life of the loan is an upfront gift and more likely to exceed the gift tax threshold. -- Chris Green << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > He is employed, but still owes $30K for his car. I just sold
If not a gift, would not the IRS consider the imputed> > my very nice house so I figure I'll pay off his loan so he > > doesn't have any interest and he can pay me a little each > > month. Now, if I write a check to the bank that loaned him > > the money, would I have to pay taxes on that check? What if > > I just gave him the money in cash or a check to his bank? > > Would I pay taxes on that? Is there any possible way to > > deduct this gift since I just sold my house and have to pay > > plenty in taxes already. > If you sold your house, and made over $250,000 profit > ($500,000 if married filing jointly) and you had lived in it > for 2 out of the 5 years prior to its sale, you'll owe no > tax and won't even have to report the sale on your federal > tax return. You may give your son up to $11,000, each year, > without any gift tax consequences. You may give an > additional $11,000 to any # of beneficiaries (his wife, > children, etc) without there being any gift tax > consequences. If you exceed the $11K amount, for any > beneficiary, you'd have to file a gift tax return. If taxes > ever become due, it is you who would have to pay them. > Unless your estate, and lifetime giving exceed $1,500,000 > (if I remember correctly, under current law) there will be > no gift tax to pay. Gifts are not deductible unless they > are made to organized charities. interest that you son pays on the loan income to him, if the interest rate is less than the market rate? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Phil Marti wrote: - quote - > "Mikey D." <1312313[at]312.321.312> writes:
And if he behaves himself, you can forgive him the debit as> > He is employed, but still owes $30K for his car. I just sold > > my very nice house so I figure I'll pay off his loan so he > > doesn't have any interest and he can pay me a little each > > month. Now, if I write a check to the bank that loaned him > > the money, would I have to pay taxes on that check? What if > > I just gave him the money in cash or a check to his bank? > > Would I pay taxes on that? Is there any possible way to > > deduct this gift since I just sold my house and have to pay > > plenty in taxes already. > First you have to decide whether you want to give him the > money or loan him the money. > There are no income tax implications to a gift. No income > to anyone; no deduction for anyone. If you alone gave your > son alone (either directly or by paying off the car loan) > $30,000 YOU would be responsible for filing a gift tax > return, although you probably would owe no payment. > If you loan the money to your son, put it in writing, along > with the repayment terms. Whether you charge interest or > not is your business. If he does pay interest, that's > interest income to you; no deduction for him. No gift tax > implications to a loan of this size. a "gift" up to 11000$ per year. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Mikey D." <1312313[at]312.321.312> writes: - quote - > He is employed, but still owes $30K for his car. I just sold
If you sold your house, and made over $250,000 profit> my very nice house so I figure I'll pay off his loan so he > doesn't have any interest and he can pay me a little each > month. Now, if I write a check to the bank that loaned him > the money, would I have to pay taxes on that check? What if > I just gave him the money in cash or a check to his bank? > Would I pay taxes on that? Is there any possible way to > deduct this gift since I just sold my house and have to pay > plenty in taxes already. ($500,000 if married filing jointly) and you had lived in it for 2 out of the 5 years prior to its sale, you'll owe no tax and won't even have to report the sale on your federal tax return. You may give your son up to $11,000, each year, without any gift tax consequences. You may give an additional $11,000 to any # of beneficiaries (his wife, children, etc) without there being any gift tax consequences. If you exceed the $11K amount, for any beneficiary, you'd have to file a gift tax return. If taxes ever become due, it is you who would have to pay them. Unless your estate, and lifetime giving exceed $1,500,000 (if I remember correctly, under current law) there will be no gift tax to pay. Gifts are not deductible unless they are made to organized charities. "Jack" - John H. Fisher - TaxService[at]aol.com Philadelphia, Pa - Atlantic City, NJ - West Wildwood, NJ My Newsgroups & Boards at: http://members.aol.com/TaxService/index.html Where Ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise!= ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Mikey D." <1312313[at]312.321.312> writes: - quote - > He is employed, but still owes $30K for his car. I just sold
First you have to decide whether you want to give him the> my very nice house so I figure I'll pay off his loan so he > doesn't have any interest and he can pay me a little each > month. Now, if I write a check to the bank that loaned him > the money, would I have to pay taxes on that check? What if > I just gave him the money in cash or a check to his bank? > Would I pay taxes on that? Is there any possible way to > deduct this gift since I just sold my house and have to pay > plenty in taxes already. money or loan him the money. There are no income tax implications to a gift. No income to anyone; no deduction for anyone. If you alone gave your son alone (either directly or by paying off the car loan) $30,000 YOU would be responsible for filing a gift tax return, although you probably would owe no payment. If you loan the money to your son, put it in writing, along with the repayment terms. Whether you charge interest or not is your business. If he does pay interest, that's interest income to you; no deduction for him. No gift tax implications to a loan of this size. Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| He is employed, but still owes $30K for his car. I just sold my very nice house so I figure I'll pay off his loan so he doesn't have any interest and he can pay me a little each month. Now, if I write a check to the bank that loaned him the money, would I have to pay taxes on that check? What if I just gave him the money in cash or a check to his bank? Would I pay taxes on that? Is there any possible way to deduct this gift since I just sold my house and have to pay plenty in taxes already. Thanks. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |