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| "Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin[at]sprintmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Harlan Lunsford wrote:
Arthur, what's your source that the bona fide resident can be claimed only> > Right, but to qualify for the exclusion does there not have > > to be some kind of treaty in effect between the US and > > foreign country (here Bosnia) for the exclusion to apply? > Only for a permanent resident under the "bona fide resident" > test. Citizens, and all qualifying under the "physical > presence" test only need to be in a country in which he > could be present legally. This MIGHT exclude Bosnia. with a treaty? I didn't see that in Section 911. David Rosenbaum << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Harlan Lunsford" <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
No, no treaty is necessary to claim the Section 911> > Hankal wrote: > > > Journalist Lives in Serbia, get compensation in foreign > > > currency to cover the war. He is a US citizen and has not > > > filed a tax return from 1993 to 1999. Now he is back in the > > > US and files the required tax returns from 2000 to 2003. > > > What should he do for the 1993- 1999 returns? > > I had assumed that the section 911 (foreign earned income) > > exclusion was only available on timely filed returns, so he > > would have to file the back tax returns and not be allowed > > the FEIE. However, I recently had occasion to check that > > out, and found that it was allowable on an original (but > > late) return if not under audit, or even if under audit if > > no taxes are due after taking the exclusion. So, he may > > very well still be required to file (unless his income was > > in a blocked currency or less than the normal filing > > requirements of personal exemption plus standard deduction), > > but if his earned income is less than the maximum FEIE, and > > his unearned income is less than the normal filing > > requirements for the specific years, he should be able to > > file the back tax returns, and owe no taxes or penalties. > Right, but to qualify for the exclusion does there not have > to be some kind of treaty in effect between the US and > foreign country (here Bosnia) for the exclusion to apply? exclusion. However, if the taxpayer was in "Violation of Travel Restrictions" - i.e., he was in a country to which the US banned travel (as of 2003 - Iraq with certain exceptions, Libya, and Cuba), then they take away the exception. David Rosenbaum << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Harlan Lunsford wrote: - quote - > Right, but to qualify for the exclusion does there not have
Only for a permanent resident under the "bona fide resident"> to be some kind of treaty in effect between the US and > foreign country (here Bosnia) for the exclusion to apply? test. Citizens, and all qualifying under the "physical presence" test only need to be in a country in which he could be present legally. This MIGHT exclude Bosnia. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > Hankal wrote:
Right, but to qualify for the exclusion does there not have> > Journalist Lives in Serbia, get compensation in foreign > > currency to cover the war. He is a US citizen and has not > > filed a tax return from 1993 to 1999. Now he is back in the > > US and files the required tax returns from 2000 to 2003. > > What should he do for the 1993- 1999 returns? > I had assumed that the section 911 (foreign earned income) > exclusion was only available on timely filed returns, so he > would have to file the back tax returns and not be allowed > the FEIE. However, I recently had occasion to check that > out, and found that it was allowable on an original (but > late) return if not under audit, or even if under audit if > no taxes are due after taking the exclusion. So, he may > very well still be required to file (unless his income was > in a blocked currency or less than the normal filing > requirements of personal exemption plus standard deduction), > but if his earned income is less than the maximum FEIE, and > his unearned income is less than the normal filing > requirements for the specific years, he should be able to > file the back tax returns, and owe no taxes or penalties. to be some kind of treaty in effect between the US and foreign country (here Bosnia) for the exclusion to apply? - quote - > He may have difficulty finding forms from 1993, but I
But he only needs six years' worth, so 1998 and 1999 only.> believe forms from 1994 on are available on the IRS web > site. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Hankal" <hankal[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > Journalist Lives in Serbia, get compensation in foreign
The journalist should file the missing tax returns. The> currency to cover the war. He is a US citizen and has not > filed a tax return from 1993 to 1999. Now he is back in the > US and files the required tax returns from 2000 to 2003. > What should he do for the 1993- 1999 returns? foreign currency needs to be converted to US Dollars at the rate in effect for the year in question when reported on the return. If he was out of the country for most or all of each year, he may qualify for the foreign earned income exclusion IF he files a return and claims it. If he waits until the IRS demands the return, then this option will no linger be available. In other words, he cannot go back and say he didn't file because the exclusion was available, it must actually be claimed, or all of the income will be deemed taxable. Question to ask: Was he employed by a foreign company, or was he a self-employed freelancer? This may make a difference on what income and expenses are claimed. Bryan -- -------- Bryan Kellar, EA Oregon Tax Help, Inc. Portland, Oregon www.oregontaxhelp.com www.canadatax.org << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Hankal" <hankal[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > Journalist Lives in Serbia, get compensation in foreign
File them as soon as possible.> currency to cover the war. He is a US citizen and has not > filed a tax return from 1993 to 1999. Now he is back in the > US and files the required tax returns from 2000 to 2003. > What should he do for the 1993- 1999 returns? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Hankal wrote: - quote - > Journalist Lives in Serbia, get compensation in foreign
File at minimum years 1998 and 1999, thus making the six> currency to cover the war. He is a US citizen and has not > filed a tax return from 1993 to 1999. Now he is back in the > US and files the required tax returns from 2000 to 2003. > What should he do for the 1993- 1999 returns? years which might satisfy "THEIRS". Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Hankal wrote: - quote - > Journalist Lives in Serbia, get compensation in foreign
I had assumed that the section 911 (foreign earned income)> currency to cover the war. He is a US citizen and has not > filed a tax return from 1993 to 1999. Now he is back in the > US and files the required tax returns from 2000 to 2003. > What should he do for the 1993- 1999 returns? exclusion was only available on timely filed returns, so he would have to file the back tax returns and not be allowed the FEIE. However, I recently had occasion to check that out, and found that it was allowable on an original (but late) return if not under audit, or even if under audit if no taxes are due after taking the exclusion. So, he may very well still be required to file (unless his income was in a blocked currency or less than the normal filing requirements of personal exemption plus standard deduction), but if his earned income is less than the maximum FEIE, and his unearned income is less than the normal filing requirements for the specific years, he should be able to file the back tax returns, and owe no taxes or penalties. He may have difficulty finding forms from 1993, but I believe forms from 1994 on are available on the IRS web site. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Journalist Lives in Serbia, get compensation in foreign currency to cover the war. He is a US citizen and has not filed a tax return from 1993 to 1999. Now he is back in the US and files the required tax returns from 2000 to 2003. What should he do for the 1993- 1999 returns? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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