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| - quote - > I expect to make a profit GREATER than $250,000, but I plan
As others have hinted at, take a close look at the word> on taking the entire proceeds of the sale of my house and > using that as the principal for the new residence. "profit." After 7 years, I think you mean "selling price greater than $250,000," not profit. I'm quite sure you won't owe any tax on this sale.Will << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "scotts." <75270_3703a[at]csi.xcom> wrote: - quote - > David Woods <dwoods[at]woods-financial.com> wrote in
Did you come out of the property with more money than you> > You can't sell a property to yourself and artificially raise > > your basis without recognizing gain. Most people would be > > happy about not having to pay tax on $250k of income..... > If you are intending to buy real property in the same market, > the income is phantom, and the tax is an expense. put into it? If yes, then you're wrong, and its real income. That you decide to buy another equally expensive property is not part of that equation. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Your effective tax is likely to be very low compared to other taxes. Even with 15% long term gain beyond the exclusion, overall it may only be 5-10%. Though its still lost money, its not very high. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Dick Adams wrote: - quote - > Mike <dontspamthecat[at]boo.ya> writes:
Well, actually, 15% from May 5(?), 2003 through 2008.> > I am trying to sell my home, and currently have a contract > > on another house that is being built. I am single, and have > > lived in my current home for 7 years. > > > I read somewhere that; > > > Single homeowners may keep $250,000 in profits tax-free on > > the sale of a home they have owned and lived in for two of > > the past five years. Anything above that amount is taxed at > > 20 percent. > That is correct. - quote - > > I expect to make a profit GREATER than $250,000, but I plan
It was allowed -- it's just that the $250,000 exemption> > on taking the entire proceeds of the sale of my house and > > using that as the principal for the new residence. > What you do with the proceeds is completely irrelevant. > > Question. Will I still be taxed on the profit greater than > > $250,000? > Yes. > > If so, it seems kind of a ripoff, as theoretically, I could > > have retitled my house (sell to myself) a few years ago > > while the profit would have been less than 250K, > No, you couldn't have. > That very thing was the subject of a long thread in this > very newsgroup at the time, and as I recall, the consensus > (thanks to a typically tightly cited and reasoned post from > EdZ, I believe :-) was that the "deemed sale" thing was not > allowed for personal residential real estate. wasn't allowed on a deemed sale. Neither was the small business stock exemption. Now, a sale to a related entity which is not considered an alter ego..... << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| David Woods <dwoods[at]woods-financial.com> wrote in - quote - > You can't sell a property to yourself and artificially raise
If you are intending to buy real property in the same market,> your basis without recognizing gain. Most people would be > happy about not having to pay tax on $250k of income..... the income is phantom, and the tax is an expense. scott s. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Mike" <dontspamthecat[at]boo.ya> wrote: - quote - > I am trying to sell my home, and currently have a contract
Yes.> on another house that is being built. I am single, and have > lived in my current home for 7 years. > I read somewhere that; << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Mike" <dontspamthecat[at]boo.ya> wrote: - quote - > I am trying to sell my home, and currently have a contract
Yes.> on another house that is being built. I am single, and have > lived in my current home for 7 years. > I read somewhere that; << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Mike" <dontspamthecat[at]boo.ya> wrote: - quote - > I am trying to sell my home, and currently have a contract
Yes.> on another house that is being built. I am single, and have > lived in my current home for 7 years. > I read somewhere that; > Single homeowners may keep $250,000 in profits tax-free on > the sale of a home they have owned and lived in for two of > the past five years. Anything above that amount is taxed at > 20 percent. > I expect to make a profit GREATER than $250,000, but I plan > on taking the entire proceeds of the sale of my house and > using that as the principal for the new residence. > Question. Will I still be taxed on the profit greater than > $250,000? - quote - > If so, it seems kind of a ripoff, as theoretically, I could
You can't sell a property to yourself and artificially raise> have retitled my house (sell to myself) a few years ago > while the profit would have been less than 250K, and now I > would be in a situation where I sell the house to another > party and the profit would still be less than 250K. your basis without recognizing gain. Most people would be happy about not having to pay tax on $250k of income..... -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Mike" <dontspamthecat[at]boo.ya> wrote - quote - > I am trying to sell my home, and currently have a contract
Yes, the gain above $250,000 will be taxed, but at 15% not> on another house that is being built. I am single, and have > lived in my current home for 7 years. > I read somewhere that; > Single homeowners may keep $250,000 in profits tax-free on > the sale of a home they have owned and lived in for two of > the past five years. Anything above that amount is taxed at > 20 percent. > I expect to make a profit GREATER than $250,000, but I plan > on taking the entire proceeds of the sale of my house and > using that as the principal for the new residence. > Question. Will I still be taxed on the profit greater than > $250,000? > If so, it seems kind of a ripoff, as theoretically, I could > have retitled my house (sell to myself) a few years ago > while the profit would have been less than 250K, and now I > would be in a situation where I sell the house to another > party and the profit would still be less than 250K. 20%. And it makes no difference whatsoever that you plan to buy another residence. I do not see why you consider it a ripoff. You could NOT have retitled it to sell it to yourself like you suggest. Where did you get that idea? You should be happy that you have $250,000 that you don't have to pay taxes on, rather than thinking you are being ripped off! $250,000 tax-free income earned in 7 years time is a darn good rate of return! Vida Freeman, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Mike <dontspamthecat[at]boo.ya> wrote: - quote - > I am trying to sell my home, and currently have a contract
Possibly in Pub 523, which details the law on home sales?> on another house that is being built. I am single, and have > lived in my current home for 7 years. > I read somewhere that; - quote - > Single homeowners may keep $250,000 in profits tax-free on
Correct, except the current LTCG rate is 15% maximum.> the sale of a home they have owned and lived in for two of > the past five years. Anything above that amount is taxed at > 20 percent. - quote - > I expect to make a profit GREATER than $250,000, but I plan
What you do with the money is irrelevant. Being able to> on taking the entire proceeds of the sale of my house and > using that as the principal for the new residence. defer the gain into a new house went away, with the tax law changes, in May 1997. - quote - > Question. Will I still be taxed on the profit greater than
For sure. Make sure that you have calculated your "gain" correctly,> $250,000? and made any appropriate adjustments to your "cost basis". Add your selling expenses (including real estate commissions) to further increase your cost basis. - quote - > If so, it seems kind of a ripoff, as theoretically, I could
I think you are delusional, as retitling the house to> have retitled my house (sell to myself) a few years ago > while the profit would have been less than 250K, and now I > would be in a situation where I sell the house to another > party and the profit would still be less than 250K. yourself is not a sale and would not lead to any capital gain exclusion. Hey, you're getting an EXCLUSION of tax on one-quarter million dollars of UNEARNED income. You want egg in your beer? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Mike <dontspamthecat[at]boo.ya> wrote: <snip - quote - > Question. Will I still be taxed on the profit greater than
No. Your actions would have been the "ripoff". You cannot> $250,000? > If so, it seems kind of a ripoff, as theoretically, I could > have retitled my house (sell to myself) a few years ago > while the profit would have been less than 250K, and now I > would be in a situation where I sell the house to another > party and the profit would still be less than 250K. sell anything to yourself, at least for tax purposes, and I cannot imagine for any other purposes either. Certainly real estate, which cannot be moved, so must be titled at the same city, town or county, so what would "retitled" entail? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Mike <dontspamthecat[at]boo.ya> writes: - quote - > I am trying to sell my home, and currently have a contract
That is correct.> on another house that is being built. I am single, and have > lived in my current home for 7 years. > I read somewhere that; > Single homeowners may keep $250,000 in profits tax-free on > the sale of a home they have owned and lived in for two of > the past five years. Anything above that amount is taxed at > 20 percent. - quote - > I expect to make a profit GREATER than $250,000, but I plan
What you do with the proceeds is completely irrelevant.> on taking the entire proceeds of the sale of my house and > using that as the principal for the new residence. - quote - > Question. Will I still be taxed on the profit greater than
Yes.> $250,000? - quote - > If so, it seems kind of a ripoff, as theoretically, I could
No, you couldn't have.> have retitled my house (sell to myself) a few years ago > while the profit would have been less than 250K, That very thing was the subject of a long thread in this very newsgroup at the time, and as I recall, the consensus (thanks to a typically tightly cited and reasoned post from EdZ, I believe :-) was that the "deemed sale" thing was not allowed for personal residential real estate. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Mike <dontspamthecat[at]boo.ya> writes: - quote - > I am trying to sell my home, and currently have a contract
Almost. The long-term capital gain rate has been lowered to> on another house that is being built. I am single, and have > lived in my current home for 7 years. > I read somewhere that; > Single homeowners may keep $250,000 in profits tax-free on > the sale of a home they have owned and lived in for two of > the past five years. Anything above that amount is taxed at > 20 percent. 15%. You can read details about the $250,000 exclusion in IRS Publication 523. It sounds like you qualify. - quote - > I expect to make a profit GREATER than $250,000, but I plan
Yes. Remember, we're not talking about sale price here,> on taking the entire proceeds of the sale of my house and > using that as the principal for the new residence. > Question. Will I still be taxed on the profit greater than > $250,000? it's the gain. Again, see Pub 523. - quote - > If so, it seems kind of a ripoff, as theoretically, I could
If you Google this group on "121" you should find several> have retitled my house (sell to myself) a few years ago > while the profit would have been less than 250K, and now I > would be in a situation where I sell the house to another > party and the profit would still be less than 250K. discussions reaching the conclusion that you couldn't have done this. Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I am trying to sell my home, and currently have a contract on another house that is being built. I am single, and have lived in my current home for 7 years. I read somewhere that; Single homeowners may keep $250,000 in profits tax-free on the sale of a home they have owned and lived in for two of the past five years. Anything above that amount is taxed at 20 percent. I expect to make a profit GREATER than $250,000, but I plan on taking the entire proceeds of the sale of my house and using that as the principal for the new residence. Question. Will I still be taxed on the profit greater than $250,000? If so, it seems kind of a ripoff, as theoretically, I could have retitled my house (sell to myself) a few years ago while the profit would have been less than 250K, and now I would be in a situation where I sell the house to another party and the profit would still be less than 250K. Thanks, -Mike << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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