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Old 07-09-2004, 05:58 PM
Nan Eklund
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Thanks, Harlan.
Every so often I realize that Tax 101 was 30 years ago and I
may have lost a few grams of gray matter since.

Nan, EA in LA

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Old 07-09-2004, 05:00 PM
Seth Breidbart
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Default Re: Moving - what percentage is deductible?

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> > Because the meal I prepare for myself at home costs $3 for
> > the ingredients; the same meal, almost as well prepared,
> > costs $20 at a restaurant.


> Brings up an interesting point.
> When I go to meeting (Southern for going to church meeting
> actually, but here used to denote going to our semi annual
> state society meetings), I have two choices: I can pack my
> supper consisting of whatever I can scrounge out of the
> cupboard at home , i.e cheese, crackers, cookies, Vienna
> sausages, cookies, my own bottle of maybe... Dalmore,
> anything that can stand the trip, OR I can eat in the
> hotel's vastly overpriced restaurant at maybe $15.95 for a
> medium priced entre, AND pay $ 5.50 per single Scotch! Which
> is more advantageous tax wise?


ITYM more advantageous net of taxes.

Bringing your own food & drink costs out-of-pocket maybe $10
(I'm guessing you don't drink the whole bottle).

Buying costs half-tax-deductible roughly $25, net of taxes
you're out of pocket around $19.

Seth

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Old 07-05-2004, 10:01 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Nan Eklund wrote:

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> Come to think of it.......our SGVCSEA monthly meetings are
> $25. Usually 2 hours CE credit. There is no separation of
> dues, meeting, dinner costs. I have been blythly deducting
> the $25 (no bar fee since I'm diabetic and shouldn't drink).
> I think the NAEA once said that the dinners are provided
> free.......so that we could deduct the whole cost. Memory
> at fault?


Your memory is just fine, Nan.

Cheer$,
HL, EA n LA

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Old 07-05-2004, 10:01 PM
Phoebe Roberts, EA
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Nan Eklund wrote:

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> Come to think of it.......our SGVCSEA monthly meetings are
> $25. Usually 2 hours CE credit. There is no separation of
> dues, meeting, dinner costs. I have been blythly deducting
> the $25 (no bar fee since I'm diabetic and shouldn't drink).


If you could attend the meeting without eating and get your
CE certificate at a lower cost, only that portion is 100%
deductible. If the only way to get your CE certificate is
to pay the full cost, the full cost is deductible as CE.

Due to the Caterpillar's allergies, there were some months
where I couldn't eat food at classes. I always made sure
they charged me the full amount, since what they were really
charging for was the class.

Phoebe

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Old 07-05-2004, 09:41 PM
MTW
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Nan Eklund wrote:

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> I think the NAEA once said that the dinners are provided
> free.......so that we could deduct the whole cost. Memory
> at fault?


I thought the IRS had ruled several years ago that when a
meal is included in the cost of a seminar or CPE program,
the cost does not need to be broken out, and you are not
required to estimate it or otherwise limit your deduction
for the seminar. But, maybe MY memory is failing...

MTW

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Old 07-05-2004, 01:33 PM
Nan Eklund
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Default Re: Moving - what percentage is deductible?

Come to think of it.......our SGVCSEA monthly meetings are
$25. Usually 2 hours CE credit. There is no separation of
dues, meeting, dinner costs. I have been blythly deducting
the $25 (no bar fee since I'm diabetic and shouldn't drink).
I think the NAEA once said that the dinners are provided
free.......so that we could deduct the whole cost. Memory
at fault?

Nan, EA in LA

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Old 07-02-2004, 04:18 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Seth Breidbart wrote:
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> Brian Collie <bc[at]colliecpa.com> wrote:
> > "Nan Eklund" <naneklund[at]aol.com> wrote:


> > > 100% is deductible except for meals. I guess they don't
> > > think you have to eat on the road.


> > You have to eat whether you are on the road or not; so, why
> > should it be deductible?


> Because the meal I prepare for myself at home costs $3 for
> the ingredients; the same meal, almost as well prepared,
> costs $20 at a restaurant.


Brings up an interesting point.

When I go to meeting (Southern for going to church meeting
actually, but here used to denote going to our semi annual
state society meetings), I have two choices: I can pack my
supper consisting of whatever I can scrounge out of the
cupboard at home , i.e cheese, crackers, cookies, Vienna
sausages, cookies, my own bottle of maybe... Dalmore,
anything that can stand the trip, OR I can eat in the
hotel's vastly overpriced restaurant at maybe $15.95 for a
medium priced entre, AND pay $ 5.50 per single Scotch! Which
is more advantageous tax wise?

It's only a question for the first night of meeting, since
second night our "reception" includes an open bar and a
buffet, which with the two lunches at the seminar is
included in our usual 125$ seminar fee for 16 hours. But I
digress.

Cheer$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 06-29-2004, 05:04 PM
Seth Breidbart
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Brian Collie <bc[at]colliecpa.com> wrote:
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> "Nan Eklund" <naneklund[at]aol.com> wrote:

> > 100% is deductible except for meals. I guess they don't
> > think you have to eat on the road.


> You have to eat whether you are on the road or not; so, why
> should it be deductible?


Because the meal I prepare for myself at home costs $3 for
the ingredients; the same meal, almost as well prepared,
costs $20 at a restaurant.

Seth

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Old 06-29-2004, 05:04 PM
Frederick Jorden
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Brian Collie wrote:
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> "Nan Eklund" <naneklund[at]aol.com> wrote:

> > 100% is deductible except for meals. I guess they don't
> > think you have to eat on the road.


> You have to eat whether you are on the road or not; so, why
> should it be deductible?


But, then why is a business meal deductible, 50%?

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Old 06-29-2004, 04:45 PM
Nan Eklund
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> You have to eat whether you are on the road or not; so, why
> should it be deductible?


If I take a business trip overnight half my meal costs are
deductible. I have never understood the logic.....but it's
according to Regs......

Nan, EA in LA

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Old 06-27-2004, 08:46 PM
Bryan Kellar
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"Bryan Kellar" <bryan[at]oregontaxhelp.com> wrote:

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> The following items are deductible: Costs of moving
> yourself (driving there, flying there, whatever). Costs of
> moving your household goods (movers, u-haul truck & fuel &
> supplies). Meals & lodging along the way as you move
> yourself, but not once you arrive. 12 cents per mile if you
> drive your car. That's about it.


Ouch, I'm not entirely correct. Strike the meals from above
-- Sorry.

Bryan

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Old 06-27-2004, 08:27 PM
Brian Collie
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"Nan Eklund" <naneklund[at]aol.com> wrote:

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> 100% is deductible except for meals. I guess they don't
> think you have to eat on the road.


You have to eat whether you are on the road or not; so, why
should it be deductible?

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Old 06-25-2004, 07:03 PM
Bryan Kellar
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"Andy" <noemail[at]noemail.com> wrote:

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> I am moving out of state for a job transfer but not being
> reimbursed for the move. I understood that in the past 100%
> was deductible. I've heard that's not true now.


The following items are deductible: Costs of moving
yourself (driving there, flying there, whatever). Costs of
moving your household goods (movers, u-haul truck & fuel &
supplies). Meals & lodging along the way as you move
yourself, but not once you arrive. 12 cents per mile if you
drive your car. That's about it.

These expenses are deductible from your income on Form 1040
(via Form 3903), presuming you meet the requirements
discussed on the form.

Bryan

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Old 06-25-2004, 06:44 PM
Nan Eklund
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100% is deductible except for meals. I guess they don't
think you have to eat on the road.

Dollar for dollar? NO deductions are dollar for dollar.
$1,000 in moving expense might mean $250, $200, $150 in
Federal tax depending on your bracket.

Nan, EA in LA

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Old 06-25-2004, 06:06 PM
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"Andy" <noemail[at]noemail.com> wrote:

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> I am moving out of state for a job transfer but not being
> reimbursed for the move. I understood that in the past 100%
> was deductible. I've heard that's not true now.
> #1) What % can be written off?
> #2) Is the write off dollar for dollar?


Your "moving" expenses may be deductible, but not your
"relocation" expenses. See IRS Pub 521 and form 3903 for
what is, and is not, deductible as a moving expense.

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Old 06-22-2004, 03:37 AM
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Default Moving - what percentage is deductible?

I am moving out of state for a job transfer but not being
reimbursed for the move. I understood that in the past 100%
was deductible. I've heard that's not true now.

#1) What % can be written off?
#2) Is the write off dollar for dollar?

Thank you!

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