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| "Robert" <malakitoatwork[at]hotmail.com> wrote - quote - > Assuming my wife and I meet the ownership and use tests, and
It is correct that the $30K is a reduction in basis, so that> assuming we have depreciated a portion of our home for a > home-based business, can the depreciation amount be > essentially tax free by including it in the $500k capital > gains exclusion? > In other words, assume a simple case where we buy a home for > $300k, depreciate say $30k of that for a home office over > five years, then sell the home for $400k. The way I read > it, you take the $300k, subtract the $30k of depreciation > and so your basis is $270k. Since $400k - $270k < $500k > (exclusion amount for a married couple meeting the ownership > and use tests), all of the gain is tax free. Is this right? > The reason I ask is that a paragraph in the Form 8829 > instructions was ambiguous and might imply that I would need > to pay capital gains tax on the $30k in depreciation when I > sold the home. However, the publication that it refers me > to seems to say that depreciation for a home office is a > reduction in basis. your basis is only $270K. But, even though your total gain is less than $500K, you DO have to pay tax on at least part of the $30K depreciation. You have to pay capital gains tax (at the 25% rate not the 15% rate--unless you are only in the 15% tax bracket) on ALL depreciation taken after May 6, 1997. The depreciation taken PRIOR to that date does reduce the basis, but it is not taxed if you meet the ownership and use tests. Vida Freeman, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Robert" <malakitoatwork[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > In other words, assume a simple case where we buy a home for
According to IRS Reg 1.121-1 no allocation of the section> $300k, depreciate say $30k of that for a home office over > five years, then sell the home for $400k. The way I read > it, you take the $300k, subtract the $30k of depreciation > and so your basis is $270k. Since $400k - $270k < $500k > (exclusion amount for a married couple meeting the ownership > and use tests), all of the gain is tax free. Is this right? 121 exclusion is required for a portion of a home that is used for business, unless it is seperate from the home . However, any depreciation taken after May 6, 1997 on the home office must be recognized as unrecaptured section 1250 Gain (25% Real Estate Gain). << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Robert" <malakitoatwork[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Assuming my wife and I meet the ownership and use tests, and
The form is not ambiguous. Depreciation taken is not> assuming we have depreciated a portion of our home for a > home-based business, can the depreciation amount be > essentially tax free by including it in the $500k capital > gains exclusion? > In other words, assume a simple case where we buy a home for > $300k, depreciate say $30k of that for a home office over > five years, then sell the home for $400k. The way I read > it, you take the $300k, subtract the $30k of depreciation > and so your basis is $270k. Since $400k - $270k < $500k > (exclusion amount for a married couple meeting the ownership > and use tests), all of the gain is tax free. Is this right? > The reason I ask is that a paragraph in the Form 8829 > instructions was ambiguous and might imply that I would need > to pay capital gains tax on the $30k in depreciation when I > sold the home. However, the publication that it refers me > to seems to say that depreciation for a home office is a > reduction in basis. subject to exclusion and will be taxed. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Boston, MA 02109 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Robert wrote: - quote - > Assuming my wife and I meet the ownership and use tests, and
Depreciation after 5/5/97 (or so) is not exempt, but is taxed> assuming we have depreciated a portion of our home for a > home-based business, can the depreciation amount be > essentially tax free by including it in the $500k capital > gains exclusion? > In other words, assume a simple case where we buy a home for > $300k, depreciate say $30k of that for a home office over > five years, then sell the home for $400k. The way I read > it, you take the $300k, subtract the $30k of depreciation > and so your basis is $270k. Since $400k - $270k < $500k > (exclusion amount for a married couple meeting the ownership > and use tests), all of the gain is tax free. Is this right? at a rate of at most 25%. The rest of the gain is tax free in this context. See publication 523 and the Schedule D instructions. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > Assuming my wife and I meet the ownership and use tests, and
Scroll down to Worksheet 2 to determine taxable gain> assuming we have depreciated a portion of our home for a > home-based business, can the depreciation amount be > essentially tax free by including it in the $500k capital > gains exclusion? > In other words, assume a simple case where we buy a home for > $300k, depreciate say $30k of that for a home office over > five years, then sell the home for $400k. The way I read > it, you take the $300k, subtract the $30k of depreciation > and so your basis is $270k. Since $400k - $270k < $500k > (exclusion amount for a married couple meeting the ownership > and use tests), all of the gain is tax free. Is this right? > The reason I ask is that a paragraph in the Form 8829 > instructions was ambiguous and might imply that I would need > to pay capital gains tax on the $30k in depreciation when I > sold the home. However, the publication that it refers me > to seems to say that depreciation for a home office is a > reduction in basis. reportable on Schedule D (Form 1040) "Capital Gain or Loss". http://www.irs.gov/publications/p523/ar02.html#d0e3263 "Jack" - John H. Fisher - TaxService[at]aol.com Philadelphia, Pa - Atlantic City, NJ - West Wildwood, NJ My Newsgroups & Boards at: http://members.aol.com/TaxService/index.html Where Ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise!= ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Assuming my wife and I meet the ownership and use tests, and assuming we have depreciated a portion of our home for a home-based business, can the depreciation amount be essentially tax free by including it in the $500k capital gains exclusion? In other words, assume a simple case where we buy a home for $300k, depreciate say $30k of that for a home office over five years, then sell the home for $400k. The way I read it, you take the $300k, subtract the $30k of depreciation and so your basis is $270k. Since $400k - $270k < $500k (exclusion amount for a married couple meeting the ownership and use tests), all of the gain is tax free. Is this right? The reason I ask is that a paragraph in the Form 8829 instructions was ambiguous and might imply that I would need to pay capital gains tax on the $30k in depreciation when I sold the home. However, the publication that it refers me to seems to say that depreciation for a home office is a reduction in basis. Thanks, Robert << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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