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| Based on the numbers you gave and assuming no debt, the basis is: basis value property 1 purchase price $100,000 $100,000 property 1 depreciation 50,000 -------- property 1 adjusted basis $ 50,000 $400,000 property 2 additional cash 100,000 -------- property 2 original basis $150,000 $500,000 property 2 depreciation 50,000 -------- property 2 adjusted basis $100,000 property 2 sale price 700,000 -------- gain before exclusion $600,000 If you and your wife used this property as your principal residence for at least two years of the five year period ending on the date of sale, you could exclude $500,000 of gain on sale. Any debt relieved or assumed in a like kind exchange would increase or decrease the amount of gain. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| James wrote: - quote - > purchase price: $100,000
NBV = $50,000> depreciation: $50,000 - quote - > 1031 exchange:
Boot paid = $100,000;> sold for: $400,000 > bought for $500,000 depreciable basis of both lumps = $150,000 - quote - > depreciation: $50,000
NBV = $100,000- quote - > sold for $700,000
Gain = $600,000, some of which is depreciation recapture noteligible for the exclusion. I'll leave it to someone else to figure out what portions are taxed and how. - quote - > 400000 - 100000 - 50000 = 350,000 (deferred capital gains
Try 400,000 - (100,000 - 50,000) = $350,000> from 1st rental > property) - quote - > 700000 - 500000 - 50000 = 150,000 (from second property)
Then 700,000 - (500,000 - 50,000) = $250,000- quote - > total capital gains = 350000 + 150000 = 500,000
$350,000 + $250,000 = $600,000Phoebe ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| sorry about unclear example. let's say. I bought a rental property for $100,000. for next 10 years, I took $50,000 depreciation. Then sold it for $400,000 with 1031 exchange, and bought another rental property for $500,000. then rented it out for 5 years more and took $50,000 depreciation during rental period. Then moved in and lived for 5 years and sold it for $700,000. purchase price: $100,000 depreciation: $50,000 1031 exchange: sold for: $400,000 bought for $500,000 rented for 5 years depreciation: $50,000 moved in and lived for 5 years sold for $700,000 here is my calculation: (ignored minor expences like improvment/broker fees, etc for sake of calculation) 400000 - 100000 - 50000 = 350,000 (deferred capital gains from 1st rental property) 700000 - 500000 - 50000 = 150,000 (from second property) total capital gains = 350000 + 150000 = 500,000 Now I can claim exclusion for $500,000, can't I??? Is my calucation correct? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "James" <cjsh2125[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > One simple question.
In order for the gain on the exchange to qualify for> Once I proceed with 1031 exchange, then later move into the > rental property, which becomes the primary residency for 2 > years. Then sell the property. How to calculate the base? > i.e) first rental: $100K > exchange to $400K ==> 300K + $50K depreciation = $350K deferred > converted to primary res for 2 years > sell price $500K > Is base $400K or $100K? deferral under the like kind rules, it must qualify under IRC Section 1031: Sec. 1031. Exchange Of Property Held For Productive Use Or Investment 1031(a) Nonrecognition Of Gain Or Loss From Exchanges Solely In Kind 1031(a)(1) In General -- No gain or loss shall be recognized on the exchange of property held for productive use in a trade or business or for investment if such property is exchanged solely for property of like kind which is to be held either for productive use in a trade or business or for investment. I assume that the second property will be held in a qualifying use for a period of time (unfortunately, there is not a "bright line" test for how long) before conversion to a principal residence. If I understood you correctly, you purchased the first property for $100,000 and deducted $50,000 of depreciation on this property before exchanging it for a property worth $400,000. Assuming no debt on either property, the basis is: cost of first property $100,000 depreciation before exchange 50,000 -------- basis of first property before exchange $ 50,000 If you did not pay any additional cash, the basis of the second property is also $50,000. If there is any debt on either property, the basis would be different. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| James wrote: - quote - > i.e) first rental: $100K
If I understand you correctly, I vote that your basis is> exchange to $400K ==> 300K + $50K depreciation = $350K deferred > converted to primary res for 2 years > sell price $500K > Is base $400K or $100K? $50,000. In order not to blow your 1031 exchange, you have to intend that the new property be a rental property, I believe. This kind of analysis doesn't work in your favor in showing your intent. ![]() Phoebe ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "James" <cjsh2125[at]hotmail.com> wrote - quote - > One simple question.
Hmmm! It seems to me you've blown qualifying for doing a> Once I proceed with 1031 exchange, then later move into the > rental property, which becomes the primary residency for 2 > years. Then sell the property. How to calculate the base? > i.e) first rental: $100K > exchange to $400K ==> 300K + $50K depreciation = $350K deferred > converted to primary res for 2 years > sell price $500K > Is base $400K or $100K? 1031 exchange in your first sentence. Your INTENT is to make the new property your primary residence, is it not? That is NOT like kind property. But if you do really exchange for rental property, the answer to your question is that the basis is the FMV of the new property MINUS the deferred gain on the old property (though it is not really quite that simple as there are usually lots of other things that come into the calculation such as exchange expenses, boot given or received, etc.). So it appears from your example (which is not really clear) that the basis in the new property is $50K. Vida Freeman, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| One simple question. Once I proceed with 1031 exchange, then later move into the rental property, which becomes the primary residency for 2 years. Then sell the property. How to calculate the base? i.e) first rental: $100K exchange to $400K ==> 300K + $50K depreciation = $350K deferred converted to primary res for 2 years sell price $500K Is base $400K or $100K? thank you very much for your help. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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