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| "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: - quote - > Dick Adams wrote:
Don't worry, I knew what Dick meant. I'm sure he didn't mean> > "David Rosenbaum" <davidrosenbaum[at]softhome.net> wrote > > Forget this is an international move and think of it > > as someone moving to another State and, upon having > > their car inspected, has to get a new catalytic > > converter. I don't think a personal deduction can > > be defended with a straight face. > Careful, Dick: > Last year, a case came before the court where the IRS > claimed that the mileage [expense] of attending an office > audit was personal, but the Tax Court sided with the > petitioner that even if it were, it was specifically > allowable per IRC 212(3). I think you [should] know which > case that was since I argued it. > Remember that some "personal expenses" (i.e. not business or > income-producing) are deductible: Property taxes, mortgage > interest on one's residence, etc., because they are > OTHERWISE allowable. This question sought an answer asking > if the expense of converters could fit an "otherwise > allowable" category (moving expense)..... I agree that it > may not. > That is different than "defending a personal deduction with > a straight face." :-) anything other than what you wrote - i.e., that it can't be defended as a moving expense. Thanks for the input. DR << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Dick Adams wrote: - quote - > "David Rosenbaum" <davidrosenbaum[at]softhome.net> wrote
Careful, Dick:> > However, he asked me about claiming the cost of replacing > > his appliances, as he's moving from the US (where > > electricity is 110) to a country in which it's 220. Sounds > > shaky to me - after all, let him just change the electricity > > in them or something. > For appliances that run on 110v, e.g. can openers, > microwaves, converters are appropriate. For those that > run on 210v, you replace the motors, but shipping costs > make them not worth shipping. For electric ranges and > refrigerators, forget it. > Wasn't there a Tax Court case where someone wanted to > include utility connection/turn-ons in their moving > expenses? I recall it, but am unable to find a cite. > Forget this is an international move and think of it > as someone moving to another State and, upon having > their car inspected, has to get a new catalytic > converter. I don't think a personal deduction can > be defended with a straight face. Last year, a case came before the court where the IRS claimed that the mileage [expense] of attending an office audit was personal, but the Tax Court sided with the petitioner that even if it were, it was specifically allowable per IRC 212(3). I think you [should] know which case that was since I argued it. Remember that some "personal expenses" (i.e. not business or income-producing) are deductible: Property taxes, mortgage interest on one's residence, etc., because they are OTHERWISE allowable. This question sought an answer asking if the expense of converters could fit an "otherwise allowable" category (moving expense)..... I agree that it may not. That is different than "defending a personal deduction with a straight face." :-) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net)> wrote: - quote - > Wasn't there a Tax Court case where someone wanted to
I believe that was possible under OLD law (probably prior to> include utility connection/turn-ons in their moving > expenses? I recall it, but am unable to find a cite. 1986). But I recall confusion as to what was allowed. Simply "new account" charges imposed by utility companies? Or the cost of installing new physical connections? Or ??? In any event, I believe it is "moot" at this time. <g MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > Hi all. I have a client who wants to claim moving expenses.
To me it's no different than having to buy or alter curtains> So far, so good. He meets all the criteria. > However, he asked me about claiming the cost of replacing > his appliances, as he's moving from the US (where > electricity is 110) to a country in which it's 220. to fit new windows. Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "David Rosenbaum" <davidrosenbaum[at]softhome.net> wrote - quote - > However, he asked me about claiming the cost of replacing
For appliances that run on 110v, e.g. can openers,> his appliances, as he's moving from the US (where > electricity is 110) to a country in which it's 220. Sounds > shaky to me - after all, let him just change the electricity > in them or something. microwaves, converters are appropriate. For those that run on 210v, you replace the motors, but shipping costs make them not worth shipping. For electric ranges and refrigerators, forget it. Wasn't there a Tax Court case where someone wanted to include utility connection/turn-ons in their moving expenses? I recall it, but am unable to find a cite. Forget this is an international move and think of it as someone moving to another State and, upon having their car inspected, has to get a new catalytic converter. I don't think a personal deduction can be defended with a straight face. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "David Rosenbaum" <davidrosenbaum[at]softhome.net> wrote - quote - > However, he asked me about claiming the cost of replacing
He can just buy a bunch of converters.> his appliances, as he's moving from the US (where > electricity is 110) to a country in which it's 220. Sounds > shaky to me - after all, let him just change the electricity > in them or something. - quote - > But I didn't see anything explicit in Publication 521.
My thought is no.> Any thoughts? -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA taxman at negia.net |
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| Hi all. I have a client who wants to claim moving expenses. So far, so good. He meets all the criteria. However, he asked me about claiming the cost of replacing his appliances, as he's moving from the US (where electricity is 110) to a country in which it's 220. Sounds shaky to me - after all, let him just change the electricity in them or something. But I didn't see anything explicit in Publication 521. Any thoughts? David Rosenbaum << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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