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| MTW <mtwingcpa[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > I think your analysis is correct.
But, upon further reflection, I might have lied. <gI think it would work like this for a $300/3 year life asset: 1) First year deduction is based on taking the 179 deduction for 60% business use = $180. 2) Second year business use is 90% of $300 = $270 less prior 179 deduction of $180 = $90 basis. Applying 3 year straight line (per your example) would yield a second year deduction of $30. 3) Third year business use is 70% of $300 = $210 less prior 179 deduction of $180 = $20 basis. Applying 3 year straight line would yield a third year deduction of $7. So, maybe you would get $217 (180 + 30 + 7) depreciation over the life of the asset. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Rich Carreiro <rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote: - quote - > So is
I think your analysis is correct. So, one might want to> that how it works? Business use in the year of the Section > 179 deduction controls and what comes after that is > irrelevent (as long as it remains over 50%)? think twice before claiming 179 on an asset like this if it appears likely that business use will INCREASE in future years. Of course, on the other hand, if a high percentage of use is claimed in the initial year, followed by rapidly declining use in future years, an auditor might look closely at the validity of the initial percentage. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| What are the subtleties of Section 179 depreciation when the business use percentage changes from year to year (though remains over 50%, as I know that when it goes below 50% there are recapture issues). For example, with normal depreciation my procedure (which in fact was endorsed by some people here :-) to handle the case when the business use percentage changes from year to year is to first draw up a depreciation schedule showing the per-year depreciation as if the business use was 100% each year and then multiple that "raw" depreciation by the actual business use %age to get the amount of depreciation to take. For example, imagine a $300 asset depreciated straight-line over three years (not claiming that's realistic -- just want to make the math nice and easy for the example :-) Raw Depr Business %age Depr Taken $100 60% $60 $100 90% $90 $100 70% $70 That I can wrap my head around. But what happens when you use Section 179? Using the example above, in the year the asset was placed in service, the business use %age was only 60%, so as far as I can tell you'd only be able to write off $180 (ignoring any of the other limitations on Section 179 depreciation). It looks like I lose compared to "normal" depreciation, which would have allowed me to write off $220 over three years. Conversely, if the business use percentages were instead 90%, 60%, 70%, it looks like I'd get to write off $270, and this time I "win" relative to normal depreciation. So is that how it works? Business use in the year of the Section 179 deduction controls and what comes after that is irrelevent (as long as it remains over 50%)? I've read Pub 946 and (not surprisingly :-) it doesn't go into this. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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