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| Ed Zollars, CPA <ezollar[at]mindspring.com> wrote: - quote - > I can't recall the case name right now, but there was a
Actually, isn't it more important what the CLAIM said than> Court of Appeals AT&T age discrimination ruling a while back > that held that if the settlement lists both excludable and > includable causes of action, the taxpayer cannot "pick and > choose" the excludable causes to come under Section 104 > (this was prior to the "tightening up" of 104, but the logic > would still apply). what the SETTLEMENT said? MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Gene E. Utterback, EA wrote: - quote - > If no guilt is admitted how can any part of
Actually, the problem is generally the opposite. The> the VOLUNTARY settlement payment be allocated to the > punishment of those that admitted doing nothing wrong? settlement doesn't need to admit guilt--the question, rather, is what claims is it meant to settle. And while no guilt will be admitted, generally settlements cover any and all potential claims related to the situation--and, generally, some of those potential claims are *NOT* excludable under Section 104. I can't recall the case name right now, but there was a Court of Appeals AT&T age discrimination ruling a while back that held that if the settlement lists both excludable and includable causes of action, the taxpayer cannot "pick and choose" the excludable causes to come under Section 104 (this was prior to the "tightening up" of 104, but the logic would still apply). -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "John Baum" <baumgrenze[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > baumgrenze[at]yahoo.com (John Baum) wrote:
It doesn't happen too often, but occasionally, such as in> > If a firm settles out of court when they are sued for being > > responsible for contributing to the death of an individual, > > in this case mesothelioma caused by asbestos exposure, is > > the net settlement considered taxable income to the estate > > of the deceased? Is there any difference if there is income > > resulting from damages awarded by a court? > Here's what an IRS rep said on the phone. "Depends." > Compensatory damages are not taxable when awarded by the court. > Punitive damages are taxable. > The IRS considers an out of court settlement to be the > equivalent of an award. > The attorney who filed the claim should report the nature of > the settlement payment, whether it is all compensatory or > part of each. this case, it seems that we can apply some basic logic to get to the right answer. Have you ever, ever heard of a voluntary settlement that included ANY admission of guilt? (I have not!). If no guilt is admitted how can any part of the VOLUNTARY settlement payment be allocated to the punishment of those that admitted doing nothing wrong? Thus, I would expect a voluntary settlement resulting from a claim for wrongful death (I believe) should be considered compensatory and should be treated as nontaxable. Gene E. Utterback, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| John Baum wrote: - quote - > baumgrenze[at]yahoo.com (John Baum) wrote:
I didn't think a settlement would have punitive damages;> > If a firm settles out of court when they are sued for being > > responsible for contributing to the death of an individual, > > in this case mesothelioma caused by asbestos exposure, is > > the net settlement considered taxable income to the estate > > of the deceased? Is there any difference if there is income > > resulting from damages awarded by a court? > Here's what an IRS rep said on the phone. "Depends." > Compensatory damages are not taxable when awarded by the court. > Punitive damages are taxable. > The IRS considers an out of court settlement to be the > equivalent of an award. wouldn't that consititute an admission of guilt? (I know, this is a legal question, rather than a tax question....) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| baumgrenze[at]yahoo.com (John Baum) wrote: - quote - > If a firm settles out of court when they are sued for being
Here's what an IRS rep said on the phone. "Depends."> responsible for contributing to the death of an individual, > in this case mesothelioma caused by asbestos exposure, is > the net settlement considered taxable income to the estate > of the deceased? Is there any difference if there is income > resulting from damages awarded by a court? Compensatory damages are not taxable when awarded by the court. Punitive damages are taxable. The IRS considers an out of court settlement to be the equivalent of an award. The attorney who filed the claim should report the nature of the settlement payment, whether it is all compensatory or part of each. John << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| If a firm settles out of court when they are sued for being responsible for contributing to the death of an individual, in this case mesothelioma caused by asbestos exposure, is the net settlement considered taxable income to the estate of the deceased? Is there any difference if there is income resulting from damages awarded by a court? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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