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| Frank S. Duke, Jr. wrote: - quote - > Brian Collie at bc[at]sbcglobal.net wrote:
There are "tricks" as to the computer usage and such.> > "alkitim" <alkitim[at]hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a > > > Home Base Business. What do you think? > > I think that maximizing retirement plan contributions is the > > best tax shelter. You don't pay tax on the income > > (currently) and you get to keep it all for yourself. What a > > deal! > I think I agree with suggestion #2. How is a home based > business a tax shelter? The IRS is well aware of the tactic > of trying to convert living expenses into "business > expenses" and it coming down hard on people who are doing > that. If you really have a home based business, that you > actually make money at, you have incremental expenses that > you wouldn't have if you didn't have the business. There is > no free lunch. If you only use your computer for business > half the time, you only get to deduct half of it. The > "regularly and exclusively" test for home office space is a > tough one to meet. I have a home based business and there > is no tax bonanza in the deductions. The expenses are real > and mostly incremental. The small deductions for insurance, > utilities and depreciation for the fraction of my home > occupied by my office are certainly no bonanza of riches. > All freely provided advice guarantee correct or double your > money back After 6 years, a computer is fully depreciated (via S/L, so no 179 recapture) and can be converted into a "personal use" machine. Many people are in the habit of replacement, but why not KEEP the older, fully depreciated machine as the personal use one. Then, the IRS cannot simply raise the personal use question and expect that the business use on the newer machine cannot be 100% because the taxpayer can point at the older machine and say, "that's what the kids use, etc...."(e.g.). OK, so this means that every 6 years you buy a new 100%-business-use computer instead of 3, but think about it another way: After 6 years, your $1,000 computer will be worthless, so although its fully depreciated (adjusted basis of $0), there won't be a gain on sale because you'll have to GIVE it away (and no gift tax either!). That's much better than having to fill out a form 4797 for it. Same thing with other assets that lend themselves to PU, especially when older. If people would just think things through, sometimes, an answer will just pop out! << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > alkitim wrote:
Since when did anyone say that a home-based business has to> > I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a > > Home Base Business. What do you think? > I think it contradicts the usual assetion that home-based > businesses make money. It may very well be true, though. "make its money" by making its sales? It's "profit" could be the tax refund(s) it causes! :-) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Brian Collie at bc[at]sbcglobal.net wrote: - quote - > "alkitim" <alkitim[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
I think I agree with suggestion #2. How is a home based> > I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a > > Home Base Business. What do you think? > I think that maximizing retirement plan contributions is the > best tax shelter. You don't pay tax on the income > (currently) and you get to keep it all for yourself. What a > deal! business a tax shelter? The IRS is well aware of the tactic of trying to convert living expenses into "business expenses" and it coming down hard on people who are doing that. If you really have a home based business, that you actually make money at, you have incremental expenses that you wouldn't have if you didn't have the business. There is no free lunch. If you only use your computer for business half the time, you only get to deduct half of it. The "regularly and exclusively" test for home office space is a tough one to meet. I have a home based business and there is no tax bonanza in the deductions. The expenses are real and mostly incremental. The small deductions for insurance, utilities and depreciation for the fraction of my home occupied by my office are certainly no bonanza of riches. All freely provided advice guarantee correct or double your money back Frank S. Duke, Jr. CPA Cincinnati, OH USA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Brian Collie wrote: - quote - > "alkitim" <alkitim[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
Well.... yeah. Mostly. Don't forget the FICA tax of> > I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a > > Home Base Business. What do you think? > I think that maximizing retirement plan contributions is the > best tax shelter. You don't pay tax on the income > (currently) and you get to keep it all for yourself. What a > deal! course. For seniors still working who already have a moderate nest egg though, and already drawing big social security checks, it's not worth it, esp in the 10 - 15% tax brackets. Again, "facts and circumstances" (F&A) Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| eagent[at]alliancetax.com says... - quote - > "alkitim" <alkitim[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
Actually, it is home-based business. Because the words home> > I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a > > Home Base Business. What do you think? > > > Work From Home... I Do! > > http://www.s4fs.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi...35&action=show > > alkitim[at]hotmail.com > I think the best thing you can do is learn better grammar. > It is home BASED business. Unless of you course you are > talking about working behind where the batter stands in a > baseball game. and based modify business, they should be hyphenated. Gary -- You can probably X figure out X which letters to X delete to derive my email address X. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Mark Rigotti, CPA" <rigotti[at]wideopenwest.com> wrote: - quote - > Clients always look at me strangely after that comment then
Amen to that. This whole area of tax deductions is one of> I explain the economics simply as give me $100 and I'll give > you $25 back and we're even and somehow they then get it. the most misunderstood in personal finance. I take the standard deduction (because I don't have enough itemized deductions) and love it. Further, we max out 401ks, supplemental deferred comp arrangements, an FSA for medical expenses and do the Schedule C for home based businesses. Somewhere in there is my best tax move. -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "alkitim" <alkitim[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a
I think that maximizing retirement plan contributions is the> Home Base Business. What do you think? best tax shelter. You don't pay tax on the income (currently) and you get to keep it all for yourself. What a deal! << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "alkitim" <alkitim[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a
I think the best thing you can do is learn better grammar.> Home Base Business. What do you think? > Work From Home... I Do! > http://www.s4fs.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi...35&action=show > alkitim[at]hotmail.com It is home BASED business. Unless of you course you are talking about working behind where the batter stands in a baseball game. Gene E. Utterback, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Dan Evans" <dan[at]evans-legal.com> wrote: - quote - > lkitim[at]hotmail.com (alkitim) wrote:
I couldn't agree more - after 3 months of "... I need more> > I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a > > Home Base Business. What do you think? > The best tax shelter for the average American is home > ownership. Period. Instead of non-deductible rent, you get > a deduction for mortgage interest and real estate taxes and > the appreciation is exempt from tax. > It doesn't get much better than that. > For a real home-based business, the deduction is not really > a major factor. I work out of my home, and I get a small > benefit from deducting some of the electricity and insurance > costs, and a small amount of depreciation, but the mortgage > interest and real estate taxes would have been deductible > anyway so what's the big deal? > So yes, there's a deduction, but I would NEVER recommend to > anyone that they start a home-based business just to claim > the deduction. > (Of course, my tax returns are honest.) deductions..." and replying - " I never recommending paying $1,000 just to save $250 in taxes (25% federal rate - there is no Michigan benefit since MI is a pure AGI state)" Clients always look at me strangely after that comment then I explain the economics simply as give me $100 and I'll give you $25 back and we're even and somehow they then get it. -- Regards, Mark Rigotti << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| alkitim wrote: - quote - > I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a
I think it contradicts the usual assetion that home-based> Home Base Business. What do you think? businesses make money. It may very well be true, though. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| alkitim wrote: - quote - > I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a
Are you selling books or seminars. Those are good> Home Base Business. What do you think? > Work From Home... I Do! > http://www.s4fs.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi...35&action=show > alkitim[at]hotmail.com businesses, even if they contain bad advice. -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| alkitim <alkitim[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Work From Home... I Do!
Dude, so do I! It's like we've got ~so~ much in common!MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| lkitim[at]hotmail.com (alkitim) wrote: - quote - > I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a
The best tax shelter for the average American is home> Home Base Business. What do you think? ownership. Period. Instead of non-deductible rent, you get a deduction for mortgage interest and real estate taxes and the appreciation is exempt from tax. It doesn't get much better than that. For a real home-based business, the deduction is not really a major factor. I work out of my home, and I get a small benefit from deducting some of the electricity and insurance costs, and a small amount of depreciation, but the mortgage interest and real estate taxes would have been deductible anyway so what's the big deal? So yes, there's a deduction, but I would NEVER recommend to anyone that they start a home-based business just to claim the deduction. (Of course, my tax returns are honest.) *Dan Evans *"One is not superior merely because one *sees the world as odious." *Francios Rene de Chateaubriand (1768-1848). << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| alkitim[at]hotmail.com says... - quote - > I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a
Dick,> Home Base Business. What do you think? > Work From Home... I Do! > http://www.s4fs.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi...35&action=show > alkitim[at]hotmail.com Did you fall asleep at the moderator's wheel? This has the look of a MLM scheme. If you click on the above link, you can see that it is assigned to Tim & Kippy Jo Spencer at 206.923.2884. Gary << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I feel the best Tax Shelters for the Average American is a Home Base Business. What do you think? Work From Home... I Do! http://www.s4fs.com/cgi-bin/team.cgi...35&action=show alkitim[at]hotmail.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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