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| Ed Zollars, CPA <ezollar[at]mindspring.com> wrote: - quote - > Giving the CPA the benefit of the doubt, I suppose he/she
Agreed. But I suppose the preparer might have been trying to> might have misunderstood the facts--but if you have a W-2 > showing significant wages from the same entity, it gets > tough to argue you didn't have reason to suspect the client > was involved with the operations <grin> . resolve "confusion" in favor of the client by sort of accidentally allowing the S-corp income to offset the passive rental losses in this case. No, it's not "right," but I probably wouldn't send anyone to jail over it. <g MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Horlander wrote: - quote - > Background: 40% owner of consulting business (S corp) which
Nowhere did you say that YOU were working for your S-corp as> showed a profit for 2003. Consulting business also provides > a full-time job and wages. Personally own a rental property > which showed a loss for the year. > Question: Taxes prepared by tax professional (CPA) are > treating the S corp pass through profit as a passive income > on Form 8582, which allows for the passive loss from the > rental property to offset the total Schedule E income. > Taxes prepared by myself using Turbotax show the S corp > profit as active income which means that form 8582 only has > the passive rental loss which is then subject to the PArt II > limitations, which results in no loss allowed for this year. > So which is correct? How can the S corp profit be treated > as passive when this is a full-time job? Can it be treated > as passive because mine is the minority (40%) ownership or > is this a mistake by the CPA. YOUR full-time job? If you are a non-working owner of the business, it very well could be passive. If you work for the S-corp, it is probably not a passive activity for you. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| MTW wrote: - quote - > Explain the situation to the CPA and see what he recommends.
And, in reality, a dirty tax professional secret <grin> is> It sounds like he misunderstood the active/passive > characteristic of the S-corp. that it could simply be a late tax season data entry issue. A number of professional tax programs default to treating pass throughs as passive unless told otherwise. So it's very possible we have a straight error in preparing the return, and the CPA failed to question why the loss was being allowed by the program. Now, that said the CPA should have reviewed the return and raised that issue--the fact that the computer did it isn't a valid excuse. But it is definitely something that would be easy to miss in a rush to get the last few returns out the door. Giving the CPA the benefit of the doubt, I suppose he/she might have misunderstood the facts--but if you have a W-2 showing significant wages from the same entity, it gets tough to argue you didn't have reason to suspect the client was involved with the operations <grin> . -- Ed Zollars, CPA Phoenix, Arizona << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Horlander" <horlander[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > Background: 40% owner of consulting business (S corp) which
Clearly the facts and circumstances stated indicate that you> showed a profit for 2003. Consulting business also provides > a full-time job and wages. Personally own a rental property > which showed a loss for the year. > Question: Taxes prepared by tax professional (CPA) are > treating the S corp pass through profit as a passive income > on Form 8582, which allows for the passive loss from the > rental property to offset the total Schedule E income. > Taxes prepared by myself using Turbotax show the S corp > profit as active income which means that form 8582 only has > the passive rental loss which is then subject to the PArt II > limitations, which results in no loss allowed for this year. > So which is correct? How can the S corp profit be treated > as passive when this is a full-time job? Can it be treated > as passive because mine is the minority (40%) ownership or > is this a mistake by the CPA. > I have a signed tax return from the CPA. If I believe this > is incorrect and considering the late date (April 14th) > should I file for an extension or file the CPAs return with > the intention of filing an amended return after meeting with > the CPA and coming to an agreement with them? actively participated in this Trade/Business and any income/loss that gets passed through to you is not passive. Your accountant appears to be treating this income as passive which is incorrect. I would file an extension and wait for further clarification from your accountant. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Horlander <horlander[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > So which is correct? How can the S corp profit be treated
Explain the situation to the CPA and see what he recommends.> as passive when this is a full-time job? Can it be treated > as passive because mine is the minority (40%) ownership or > is this a mistake by the CPA. It sounds like he misunderstood the active/passive characteristic of the S-corp. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Background: 40% owner of consulting business (S corp) which showed a profit for 2003. Consulting business also provides a full-time job and wages. Personally own a rental property which showed a loss for the year. Question: Taxes prepared by tax professional (CPA) are treating the S corp pass through profit as a passive income on Form 8582, which allows for the passive loss from the rental property to offset the total Schedule E income. Taxes prepared by myself using Turbotax show the S corp profit as active income which means that form 8582 only has the passive rental loss which is then subject to the PArt II limitations, which results in no loss allowed for this year. So which is correct? How can the S corp profit be treated as passive when this is a full-time job? Can it be treated as passive because mine is the minority (40%) ownership or is this a mistake by the CPA. I have a signed tax return from the CPA. If I believe this is incorrect and considering the late date (April 14th) should I file for an extension or file the CPAs return with the intention of filing an amended return after meeting with the CPA and coming to an agreement with them? Any help is much appreciated! Kim << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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