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| HW "Skip" Weldon <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > What if the property was personal use (lived in) for part of
As I recall, the question of "investment" status for> the time, and rented out for part of the time. What then? inherited property is governed entirely by "court made" law (by those "activist judges," I suppose). The cases seem to indicate that even a nominal amount of personal use will not taint the investment characteristics of this property SO LONG AS it can be established that the predominant intent of the estate or heirs was to sell (or, I suppose, convert it to other business use) and that such intent has not been abandoned. Note that this criteria is much different than the rules regarding personal use under IRC 280A. However, if the intent to sell HAS been abandoned, then normal rules would apply to the disposition of a "mixed use" property. Here is an example of my first point: Years ago a client's mother died, leaving her home to client and his sisters. The siblings quickly agreed that they wanted to sell the house. However, given the sluggish market at the time, they permitted a niece to live in it "rent free" (ostensibly to "keep an eye on the place") while pending sale. It took almost two years to sell, resulting in a small loss. The accountant that had handled the mother's returns suggested that the loss was probably deductible by the siblings. I was skeptical, but after researching the matter, agreed. Note that were it NOT for the inherited status (and related court-made rules), IRC 280A would have held that rent free use by a family member was attributed PERSONAL use by the owners. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Christopher Green wrote: - quote - > dkanttila[at]yahoo.com (Debra) wrote:
But here's the rub. If it's not disused, it's used. If> > Sold lakehome myself & 4 siblings became owners of after > > deaths of parents. We owned it for about 2 years and it > > was never lived in following their deaths. When sold, we > > took a $10k loss on it ÷ 5 of us = $2000 each. The title > > company reported sale to irs, but we never got any kind of > > 1099, as they said they didn't have to send us any. 2 sibs > > tax consultants say can't take loss on it because it's > > considered personal use property, but must report it on > > schedule D. 2 sibs tax consultants say can take loss on the > > sale and use schedule D. Only 4 days to file....I don't > > have a tax consultant. Does anyone know if this is an > > allowable loss? Help > If it is indeed personal-use property, your loss is not > deductible. It would have to qualify as investment property, > for example by being rented out. If it sat there disused, > that isn't investment property so far as I can see. used by family member(s) it becomes personal use property and loss not deductible . If rented out it is rental property and that's another whole different ball game. Cheer$$$$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > Sold lakehome myself & 4 siblings became owners of after
What if the property was personal use (lived in) for part of> > deaths of parents. We owned it for about 2 years and it > > was never lived in following their deaths. When sold, we > > took a $10k loss on it =F7 5 of us =3D $2000 each. =20 > If it is indeed personal-use property, your loss is not > deductible. It would have to qualify as investment property, > for example by being rented out. If it sat there disused, > that isn't investment property so far as I can see. the time, and rented out for part of the time. What then? -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Debra wrote: - quote - > Sold lakehome myself & 4 siblings became owners of after
If never lived in since parents' deaths, then it is> deaths of parents. We owned it for about 2 years and it > was never lived in following their deaths. When sold, we > took a $10k loss on it ÷ 5 of us = $2000 each. The title > company reported sale to irs, but we never got any kind of > 1099, as they said they didn't have to send us any. 2 sibs > tax consultants say can't take loss on it because it's > considered personal use property, but must report it on > schedule D. 2 sibs tax consultants say can take loss on the > sale and use schedule D. Only 4 days to file....I don't > have a tax consultant. Does anyone know if this is an > allowable loss? Help inherited property, and therefore eligible for capital loss treatment. Cheer$$$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| dkanttila[at]yahoo.com (Debra) wrote: - quote - > Sold lakehome myself & 4 siblings became owners of after
If it is indeed personal-use property, your loss is not> deaths of parents. We owned it for about 2 years and it > was never lived in following their deaths. When sold, we > took a $10k loss on it ÷ 5 of us = $2000 each. The title > company reported sale to irs, but we never got any kind of > 1099, as they said they didn't have to send us any. 2 sibs > tax consultants say can't take loss on it because it's > considered personal use property, but must report it on > schedule D. 2 sibs tax consultants say can take loss on the > sale and use schedule D. Only 4 days to file....I don't > have a tax consultant. Does anyone know if this is an > allowable loss? Help deductible. It would have to qualify as investment property, for example by being rented out. If it sat there disused, that isn't investment property so far as I can see. -- Chris Green << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Debra <dkanttila[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Sold lakehome myself & 4 siblings became owners of after
Property that is inherited is generally deemed to be "held> deaths of parents. We owned it for about 2 years and it > was never lived in following their deaths. for investment" unless or until it is actually converted to personal use. So, if there was no personal use on the part of the siblings, I'd agree with those who say that the loss is deductible. An interesting question would be whether personal use by ONE sibling would taint this situation for the other siblings. But, fortunately, it sounds like we don't have to resolve that here. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Sold lakehome myself & 4 siblings became owners of after deaths of parents. We owned it for about 2 years and it was never lived in following their deaths. When sold, we took a $10k loss on it ÷ 5 of us = $2000 each. The title company reported sale to irs, but we never got any kind of 1099, as they said they didn't have to send us any. 2 sibs tax consultants say can't take loss on it because it's considered personal use property, but must report it on schedule D. 2 sibs tax consultants say can take loss on the sale and use schedule D. Only 4 days to file....I don't have a tax consultant. Does anyone know if this is an allowable loss? Help << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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