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| "Kenneth G. Jarvis, CPA" <kgjarvis[at]cpadvantage.com> wrote: - quote - > Taxpayer inherited land and rights to oil associated with
Yes.> that land in 1972. Taxpayer sold the land in 1994, however, > the taxpayer retained royalty rights (Royalty Owner) to the > oil. Taxpayer receives royalties throughout the year and is > reported on a 1099-MISC. Taxpayer does not have any > activity with the oil except for receiving royalties. > Question > 1. Can the taxpayer take a depletion deduction using the > percentage method? - quote - > 2. According to Publication 535 instructions, in order to
The depletable quantity is 1000 barrels a day. It's in the> take the depletion, we have to do some comparisons (see > below). > IRS Publication > Generally, as an independent producer or royalty owner, you > figure your percentage depletion by computing your average > daily production of domestic oil or gas and comparing it to > your depletable oil or gas quantity. If your average daily > production does not exceed your depletable oil or gas > quantity, you figure your percentage depletion by > multiplying the gross income from the oil or gas property > (defined later) by 15%. If your average daily production of > domestic oil or gas exceeds your depletable oil or gas > quantity, you must make an allocation > The questions is what if the taxpayer has no clue as to what > the average daily production of domestic oil or depletable > oil quantity. > What does the taxpayer do? Just use 15% against gross > income for the depletion deduction? If so, what is the > supporting authority. Thanks in advance. publication you mentioned and IRC 613A. But since oil is around $30 a barrel that means revenue has to exceed $30,000 (est) a day before you have to worry about not geting a standard 15% depletion. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Kenneth G. Jarvis, CPA wrote: - quote - > 1. Can the taxpayer take a depletion deduction using the
Yes.> percentage method? - quote - > The questions is what if the taxpayer has no clue as to what
Keep reading. Your depletable oil quantity is 1,000> the average daily production of domestic oil or depletable > oil quantity. barrels, unless you have stripper wells. The remittance advices may or may not have information about production levels, but you may be able to back into it if you know what percentage of income is going to your client, and the average price of oil during the year. Phoebe ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Kenneth G. Jarvis, CPA" <kgjarvis[at]cpadvantage.com> wrote: - quote - > Taxpayer inherited land and rights to oil associated with
Probably. The "depletable oil quantity" is 1,000 barrels> that land in 1972. Taxpayer sold the land in 1994, however, > the taxpayer retained royalty rights (Royalty Owner) to the > oil. Taxpayer receives royalties throughout the year and is > reported on a 1099-MISC. Taxpayer does not have any > activity with the oil except for receiving royalties. > Question > 1. Can the taxpayer take a depletion deduction using the > percentage method? per day (times 365 days in a year = 365,000 barrels). At $20 per barrel this is more than $7,000,000 gross per year. Most folks I know don't produce that much. This also assumes that your client's predecessor didn't make a "tainted" transfer between 1975 and 1990, isn't a retailer or refiner, and some other stuff. Read Sec. 613A and the regs. (particularly if your client is a $6,000,000 woman). Tom Roth, E.A. in Chicago << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Taxpayer inherited land and rights to oil associated with that land in 1972. Taxpayer sold the land in 1994, however, the taxpayer retained royalty rights (Royalty Owner) to the oil. Taxpayer receives royalties throughout the year and is reported on a 1099-MISC. Taxpayer does not have any activity with the oil except for receiving royalties. Question 1. Can the taxpayer take a depletion deduction using the percentage method? 2. According to Publication 535 instructions, in order to take the depletion, we have to do some comparisons (see below). IRS Publication Generally, as an independent producer or royalty owner, you figure your percentage depletion by computing your average daily production of domestic oil or gas and comparing it to your depletable oil or gas quantity. If your average daily production does not exceed your depletable oil or gas quantity, you figure your percentage depletion by multiplying the gross income from the oil or gas property (defined later) by 15%. If your average daily production of domestic oil or gas exceeds your depletable oil or gas quantity, you must make an allocation The questions is what if the taxpayer has no clue as to what the average daily production of domestic oil or depletable oil quantity. What does the taxpayer do? Just use 15% against gross income for the depletion deduction? If so, what is the supporting authority. Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Ken << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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