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Probably not, since, short of an audit, they won't have the> > maximum that you could refinance with deductibility is > > $225k. If you then refinance that loan, you will still have > > a maximum of $125k as acquisition debt and $100k of equity > > debt. The only way to increase your acquisition debt > > (towards its $1M cap) is to buy or build something you > > didn't have before (that qualifies). > Is such a distinction trackable by the IRS short of an audit > and/or identified on a 1098? loan agreement. I worded my answer the way I did because it's quite possible that you may have paid off part of the acquisition principal. If the principal is paid down to $100k when you then refinance it and take $275k out, then you get $100k as acquisition debt, $100k as equity debt, and $75k as non-qualified debt (for which the interest isn't deductible). << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Vernon V Chatman III wrote: - quote - > "Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin[at]sprintmail.com> wrote:
No. Well, only if an additional loan was used to finance> > Doug wrote: > > > I'm probably not the first person to think of this, but > > > please let me know what you think. > > > > > Suppose you bought a house w/ a 125k mortgage. Later, you > > > refi it with 150k cashout. Suppose the home is worth more > > > than this new 275k loan. The cashout portion is considered > > > home equity debt and 100k of it deductible. The remaining > > > 50k isn't deductible. > > > > > But what if you refinanced the 275k mortgage. Is the entire > > > 275k now deductible? > > Unless a loan is actually for the purpose of buying the > > house (or improvements), was taken out before 1987, or is > > a refinance (at no more than the previous loan), of an > > allowable loan, it is not deductible as "acquision interest". > > > So the answer is "no". > I agree with you, but have a related question. If the > (revolving line of credit) loan was taken out before 1987 > and the loan limit is increased due to re-appraisals, do > increases in the loan amount used escape the $100K > restriction? an improvement. Loan limit increases are irrelevant. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > Assuming that your $125k was an interest-only debt, the
Is such a distinction trackable by the IRS short of an audit> maximum that you could refinance with deductibility is > $225k. If you then refinance that loan, you will still have > a maximum of $125k as acquisition debt and $100k of equity > debt. The only way to increase your acquisition debt > (towards its $1M cap) is to buy or build something you > didn't have before (that qualifies). and/or identified on a 1098? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin[at]sprintmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Doug wrote:
I agree with you, but have a related question. If the> > I'm probably not the first person to think of this, but > > please let me know what you think. > > > Suppose you bought a house w/ a 125k mortgage. Later, you > > refi it with 150k cashout. Suppose the home is worth more > > than this new 275k loan. The cashout portion is considered > > home equity debt and 100k of it deductible. The remaining > > 50k isn't deductible. > > > But what if you refinanced the 275k mortgage. Is the entire > > 275k now deductible? > Unless a loan is actually for the purpose of buying the > house (or improvements), was taken out before 1987, or is > a refinance (at no more than the previous loan), of an > allowable loan, it is not deductible as "acquision interest". > So the answer is "no". (revolving line of credit) loan was taken out before 1987 and the loan limit is increased due to re-appraisals, do increases in the loan amount used escape the $100K restriction? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Doug wrote: - quote - > I'm probably not the first person to think of this, but
Only the amount of the original loan outstanding carries> please let me know what you think. > Suppose you bought a house w/ a 125k mortgage. Later, you > refi it with 150k cashout. Suppose the home is worth more > than this new 275k loan. The cashout portion is considered > home equity debt and 100k of it deductible. The remaining > 50k isn't deductible. > But what if you refinanced the 275k mortgage. Is the entire > 275k now deductible? I'm still confused after reading pub > 936 twice. (That is one confusing publication!) Some parts > of 936 suggest the 275k is deductible, but I'm a bit > skeptical overall because it seems too easy to get past the > 100k limitation on equity debt. over as acquisition debt. The next $100K beyond that is your equity debt. Beyond that, you lose. Assuming that your $125k was an interest-only debt, the maximum that you could refinance with deductibility is $225k. If you then refinance that loan, you will still have a maximum of $125k as acquisition debt and $100k of equity debt. The only way to increase your acquisition debt (towards its $1M cap) is to buy or build something you didn't have before (that qualifies). << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > But what if you refinanced the 275k mortgage. Is the entire
No. Only the interest on 125k is deductible as "acquisition> 275k now deductible? indebtedness", even if it is refinanced. You can also deduct the interest on 100k as home equity indebtedness over and above the amount of "acquisition indebtedness". Thus, you can deduct interest on 225k and cannot deduct interest on the 50k, which leaves you in the same place as you would have been if you had not refinanced. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Doug wrote: - quote - > I'm probably not the first person to think of this, but
Unless a loan is actually for the purpose of buying the> please let me know what you think. > Suppose you bought a house w/ a 125k mortgage. Later, you > refi it with 150k cashout. Suppose the home is worth more > than this new 275k loan. The cashout portion is considered > home equity debt and 100k of it deductible. The remaining > 50k isn't deductible. > But what if you refinanced the 275k mortgage. Is the entire > 275k now deductible? house (or improvements), was taken out before 1987, or is a refinance (at no more than the previous loan), of an allowable loan, it is not deductible as "acquision interest". So the answer is "no". << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I'm probably not the first person to think of this, but please let me know what you think. Suppose you bought a house w/ a 125k mortgage. Later, you refi it with 150k cashout. Suppose the home is worth more than this new 275k loan. The cashout portion is considered home equity debt and 100k of it deductible. The remaining 50k isn't deductible. But what if you refinanced the 275k mortgage. Is the entire 275k now deductible? I'm still confused after reading pub 936 twice. (That is one confusing publication!) Some parts of 936 suggest the 275k is deductible, but I'm a bit skeptical overall because it seems too easy to get past the 100k limitation on equity debt. Thanks Doug << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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