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Old 04-12-2004, 10:52 AM
Barney Bird
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"Zoltrix" <fakemail[at]mail.com> wrote:

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> Can I file her federal return and MY state
> return, for maximum gain?


You can but it would not be wise to do so. Since you were
prudent enough to have your worked checked by someone
competent, you should exercise consistent good judgement by
filing the returns she prepared.

Barney Byrd

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Old 04-12-2004, 10:14 AM
Sassy Baskets
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"Zoltrix" <fakemail[at]mail.com> wrote:

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> I did a return myself. Resut: $0 federal, $2400 state.
> Took it to an accountant just to be sure, she came up with
> $1100 fed, $1200 state. My question is this. Can I file
> her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?


You can file any two returns you like as long as they are
both correct. I would guess that either some of these
returns are incorrect (most likely yours, no offense), or
the difference between your two returns and her two returns
involves some kind of trade-off between federal and state,
in which case using her federal would make your state return
incorrect.

Why didn't you ask the accountant to explain the results?

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Old 04-12-2004, 10:14 AM
Andy Green
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Default Re: can i mix and match returns?

"Zoltrix" <fakemail[at]mail.com> wrote:

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> I did a return myself. Resut: $0 federal, $2400 state.
> Took it to an accountant just to be sure, she came up with
> $1100 fed, $1200 state. My question is this. Can I file
> her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?


I suggest you never do your own taxes again. Sure send in
twice what you owe to the state why not?. Why not just
ignore your accountant and use both your returns?. That
would be better.

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Old 04-12-2004, 10:14 AM
Rich Carreiro
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Default Re: can i mix and match returns?

"Zoltrix" <fakemail[at]mail.com> writes:

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> I did a return myself. Resut: $0 federal, $2400 state.
> Took it to an accountant just to be sure, she came up with
> $1100 fed, $1200 state. My question is this. Can I file
> her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?


No.

You have to file the returns that are *correct*. Have you
compared the returns you did and the returns the accountant
did and see why they differ? Are the accountant's returns
the correct ones? Are yours?

Further, generally many lines on a state return depend
on lines on the federal return. If you do the "mix and
match", you will very likely have a mis-match and will
probably be hearing from your state tax dept about it
in the future.

--
Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us

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Old 04-12-2004, 09:54 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Zoltrix wrote:

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> I did a return myself. Resut: $0 federal, $2400 state.
> Took it to an accountant just to be sure, she came up with
> $1100 fed, $1200 state. My question is this. Can I file
> her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?


I don't understand. Why would you want to file "her" fed
and pay 1100? and then file "your" state and pay 2400?

The answer to your question is that you shoudl file the
returns that are correct. And I'll venture to say that the
returns she prepared are probably more correct than yours.

If you're in doubt, show her yours and she'll show you hers.
figures of course.

Cheer$$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 04-12-2004, 08:56 AM
Wcm7315
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Default Re: can i mix and match returns?

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> I did a return myself. Resut: $0 federal, $2400 state.
> Took it to an accountant just to be sure, she came up with
> $1100 fed, $1200 state. My question is this. Can I file
> her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?


At most, only one of those is correct. File the correct one!
(I'd put my money on the accountant.) Will

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Old 04-12-2004, 08:56 AM
TaxSrv
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"Zoltrix" wrote:

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> I did a return myself. Resut: $0 federal, $2400 state.
> Took it to an accountant just to be sure, she came up with
> $1100 fed, $1200 state. My question is this. Can I file
> her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?


You can't be serious, or are you? You, not your preparer,
have an obligation to file a true and correct return. Have
you matched them up to see what what's at variance?
Particularly with reference to State, a $1200 variance vs.
$2400 is rather extraordinary on other than a goofy math
error.

The probability you screwed it up is greater than that a
professional prepaer did, but no preprarer can claim 100%
accuracy. If you're unable to resolve this with the
preparer at this late date in her busy schedule, shoot in an
extension(s) and work on it after the 15th. Treating this
matter so casually I think is frankly rather poor judgment.
You're submitting these documents to gov't entities with the
power to prosecute you should the circumstances fit their
enforcement framework.

Fred F.

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Old 04-12-2004, 08:56 AM
CLJ1219
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> I did a return myself. Resut: $0 federal, $2400 state.
> Took it to an accountant just to be sure, she came up with
> $1100 fed, $1200 state. My question is this. Can I file
> her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?


This should make it simple: file the CORRECT return.

Carol
What can one expect of a day that begins with getting out of bed.

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Old 04-12-2004, 08:37 AM
Bob Sandler
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> I did a return myself. Resut: $0 federal, $2400 state.
> Took it to an accountant just to be sure, she came up with
> $1100 fed, $1200 state. My question is this. Can I file
> her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?


I assume you are talking about refunds, not payments due,
since you seem to think that higher amounts are preferable.

You should file the returns that are the most accurate.
Chances are the returns that the accountant prepared are
more accurate than yours. You say you took "it" to the
accountant. Did you show her the returns that you prepared?
If so, she should be able to explain the differences to you
(i.e. point out your errors).

Technically you can "mix and match." There is no rule that
requires your federal and state returns to be prepared by
the same person. However, most (all?) states have agreements
with the IRS to exchange tax return data. The income,
deductions, and other facts on your state return should
generally be the same as those on your federal return,
except for differences caused by differences between federal
and state tax laws. If they don't match, you will likely get
audited by the state, the IRS, or both. So you should file a
set of returns that are consistent with each other.

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Old 04-12-2004, 08:17 AM
MTW
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Zoltrix <fakemail[at]mail.com> wrote:

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> My question is this. Can I file
> her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?


What do YOU think the correct answer is?

MTW

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Old 04-12-2004, 07:39 AM
Phil Marti
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"Zoltrix" <fakemail[at]mail.com> writes:

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> I did a return myself. Resut: $0 federal, $2400 state.
> Took it to an accountant just to be sure, she came up with
> $1100 fed, $1200 state. My question is this. Can I file
> her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?


No. File the correct ones.

Phil Marti
Topeka, KS

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Old 04-12-2004, 07:38 AM
Vernon V Chatman III
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"Zoltrix" <fakemail[at]mail.com> wrote:

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> I did a return myself. Resut: $0 federal, $2400 state.
> Took it to an accountant just to be sure, she came up with
> $1100 fed, $1200 state. My question is this. Can I file
> her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?


If the state return derives [even in part] from the federal
return (e.g., federal AGI), won't you be mis-representing
your federal return on your state return?

While all four returns could be wrong, they cannot all be
right! You need to figure out which returns are correct
[most accurate] and submit those.

The accountant signed off on the pair of returns. If you
use the accountant's federal and your state you may be
mis-representing the accountant and invalidate the sign-off
on the federal return.

In any case, you are looking at $3,500 vs $2,300 refund.
The correct comparison is $2,300 vs $2,400.

Since you did not believe your self-prepared returns, why
would you submit either of them as a correct return?

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Old 04-12-2004, 07:38 AM
Jo Firey
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"Zoltrix" <fakemail[at]mail.com> wrote:

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> I did a return myself. Resut: $0 federal, $2400 state.
> Took it to an accountant just to be sure, she came up with
> $1100 fed, $1200 state. My question is this. Can I file
> her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?


Can you? Yes. Should you? No

Would it be a good idea? No

We have to assume here that one of the returns you would be
filing would be incorrect. Bad. And that you know it.
Worse, much worse. Tax fraud comes to mind.

(And in case this is what you are really wondering, yes the
federal and state returns to get compared down the road)

Not to mention that this sounds like a case where even a
cursory computer check of the returns would catch the
problems.

To be clear, don't you have better things to do with your
future than play games with the tax authorities?

Jo

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Old 04-08-2004, 07:44 PM
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I did a return myself. Resut: $0 federal, $2400 state.
Took it to an accountant just to be sure, she came up with
$1100 fed, $1200 state. My question is this. Can I file
her federal return and MY state return, for maximum gain?

TIA.

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