|
#7
| |||
| |||
| Lesstax wrote: - quote - > Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
Remember how I responded: "Only if asked."> > Don Baaso wrote: > > therefore, bite your tongue. Do you want to lose a client, > > anyway? > in other words if it is in your financial interest dont > follow your heart and try to help a fellow human? When doing tax work I am NOT doing financial consultation. If I were, I would be charging for that separately. - quote - > your advice may be over looked but that is not in your
I am not a priest; I am not a minister; I am not a> control, helping is.. psychologist. However, IF, and that is a big "IF", I have known someone for a long time, and feel comfortable with him, and I'm sure he feels comfortable with me, I might get a word in edgewise about some destructive financial behavior. - quote - > you never know, your advice may be the straw that broke the
I guess my real point is that we should stick to what we do> camels back and push your client to seeking help. best. Cheer$$$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
|
#6
| |||
| |||
| Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Don Baaso wrote:
in other words if it is in your financial interest dont> therefore, bite your tongue. Do you want to lose a client, > anyway? follow your heart and try to help a fellow human? your advice may be over looked but that is not in your control, helping is.. you never know, your advice may be the straw that broke the camels back and push your client to seeking help. just my humble opinion.. g << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
|
#5
| |||
| |||
| "Frederick Jorden" <knowtax[at]bigfoot.com> wrote: - quote - > Don Baaso wrote:
Sadly I had this happen with not just a client but a dear> > A fine family man appears to have developed a major gambling > > addition. . > > > I want to say to him that his behavior will lead to great > > harm and he needs to seek help pronto. > > Has anyone given personal advise to clients? > .... Had a new client who I felt was caught up in > an seminar investment scam. When I brought up the problems > that I saw with the investment program she got very > defensive. I told her I was never going to raise the issue > again and I lost the client. But I sleep well. friend. He got into one of those trust deals where you put your house and everything else into a trust and then deduct everything. He really didn't understand and was deeply offended when I told him I could not do his taxes. That I couldn't do what the trust sellers told him and couldn't even straighten out the mess. Jo << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
|
#4
| |||
| |||
| Don Baaso wrote: - quote - > A fine family man appears to have developed a major gambling
Only when asked.> addition. Last year was the first time I saw W-2Gs to the > tune of $6k. This year there are 48 W-2Gs to the amount of > $148k. IMHO this probably means a net loss of $30k. He has > casino player card data to show net loss but did not show it > to me. This is a nice family with one child in college and > a $70k income. > I want to say to him that his behavior will lead to great > harm and he needs to seek help pronto. Should I? He > probably won't listen. I did this once before to no avail. > Has anyone given personal advise to clients? Exception: when they've obviously had TOO darned much withheld by employer! (exception proves the rule) therefore, bite your tongue. Do you want to lose a client, anyway? Cheer$$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
|
#3
| |||
| |||
| The mind your own business chicken answer: I've found that taxs itself provide a good way to at least approach a personal subject I feel bad about with a friend whose taxs I am doing: by going into much more detail on the subject then I normally would and causing them to think about what they are doing.In this case I would delve into documentation requirements for gambling losses(slot club data is not always exceptable because of card pulling and other factors)losses up to winnings and only if you itemize,win in one year (w2-g)lose in another you have a tax problem even what it takes to prove your a professional gambler to I.R.S. if you think its would help.Jean Scott put out a book on all the tax record keeping and implications there in.If he's an advantage gambler with a large enough bankroll(in this case would be the right videopoker games other forms would not generate W2-gs) he may not have a finicial problem.If you are going to give personnal advice it should be seperate after the taxs are done. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
|
#2
| |||
| |||
| Don Baaso wrote: - quote - > A fine family man appears to have developed a major gambling
I have but I would limit this to one suggestion that he seek> addition. Last year was the first time I saw W-2Gs to the > tune of $6k. This year there are 48 W-2Gs to the amount of > $148k. IMHO this probably means a net loss of $30k. He has > casino player card data to show net loss but did not show it > to me. This is a nice family with one child in college and > a $70k income. > I want to say to him that his behavior will lead to great > harm and he needs to seek help pronto. Should I? He > probably won't listen. I did this once before to no avail. > Has anyone given personal advise to clients? help. I would not go any further. You can lead a horse to water but.... Had a new client who I felt was caught up in an seminar investment scam. When I brought up the problems that I saw with the investment program she got very defensive. I told her I was never going to raise the issue again and I lost the client. But I sleep well. -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
|
#1
| |||
| |||
| - quote - > I want to say to him that his behavior will lead to great
This is a tough one.> harm and he needs to seek help pronto. Should I? He > probably won't listen. I did this once before to no avail. > Has anyone given personal advise to clients? You probably shouldn't talk to him unless you do so as a friend. We have tried giving personal advise to clients and they don't listen. Heck, some of our clients don't listen to the business advice we give them! <G Carol What can one expect of a day that begins with getting out of bed. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
| | |||
| |||
| Unless you desperately need his business, speak out loudly and tell the wife too. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
|
#-1
| |||
| |||
| A fine family man appears to have developed a major gambling addition. Last year was the first time I saw W-2Gs to the tune of $6k. This year there are 48 W-2Gs to the amount of $148k. IMHO this probably means a net loss of $30k. He has casino player card data to show net loss but did not show it to me. This is a nice family with one child in college and a $70k income. I want to say to him that his behavior will lead to great harm and he needs to seek help pronto. Should I? He probably won't listen. I did this once before to no avail. Has anyone given personal advise to clients? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
| Tags |
| client, lecture |
Similar Threads | ||||
| Thread | Forum | Replies | Last Post | |
| WM5 Client Alternatives Don Deacon: I'm using Money 2005 and have always used the Pocket PC client which does most of what I use it for. I recently upgraded my pocket device and it is... | Microsoft Money | 4 | 05-29-2007 03:37 PM | |
| Using client software Anonymous: I specifically and consciously chose to use client software (rather than a web site) to consolidate my financial data. My goal was to have the data... | Microsoft Money | 9 | 07-29-2004 07:38 PM | |
| Funny call from client... Nan Eklund: I do love lawyers. A client just called to get an appointment after tax season to finish up the tax work for her deceased mother. (We'll do... | Taxes | 4 | 03-06-2004 07:14 AM | |
| Client is a gambler julie: I have had this client for 14 years. He is great. He shows up in February and has records with supporting reciepts and logs. He always has... | Taxes | 3 | 03-02-2004 06:32 PM | |
| Tips on being a good client LKYPon: I want to start a thread on tips on being a good client. Sometimes I see a post from someone complaining about their tax advisor/preparer. I think... | Taxes | 4 | 12-24-2003 12:41 AM | |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
| |