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| Eric wrote: - quote - > I think I understand about adjusting the basis of a bond
There's an Excel template for bond premium amortization at> each year for the premium paid for the bond, but what I'm > puzzled by is the exact calculation for the IRS's Constant > Yield Method. Here's a quote from Pub 550 on how to > determine the yield: > Step 1: determine your yield. Your yield is the discount > rate that, when used in figuring the present value of all > remaining payments to be made on the bond (including > payments of qualified stated interest), produces an amount > equal to your basis in the bond. Figure the yield as of the > date you got the bond. It must be constant over the term of > the bond and must be figured to at least two decimal places > when expressed as a percentage. > Could anybody help with an example? Once I know the yield, > I think I can make the basis-adjustment calculations. http://office.microsoft.com/templates/default.aspx Click on "Personal Finance" first (it's under "Finance and Accounting"), and then on "Bond Amortization." You can download the Excel template from there. To use the spreadsheet, first, fill in the first four blanks. (Leave "Effective rate" blank at this point.) Then, use Tools > > Goal seek To calculate the "Effective rate" (that is, to "determine the yield"). Specifically, use "goal seek" to make the final "Carrying amount of bond" value equal to the "Face value of the bond" by changing the "Effective rate." (Disclaimer: I'm not a CPA, just somebody who wanted to figure out the same stuff.) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Eric <nospam[at]nospam.com> writes: - quote - > I think I understand about adjusting the basis of a bond
Yay, Congress. On the other hand, I can't really blame> each year for the premium paid for the bond, but what I'm > puzzled by is the exact calculation for the IRS's Constant > Yield Method. Here's a quote from Pub 550 on how to > determine the yield: > Step 1: determine your yield. Your yield is the discount > rate that, when used in figuring the present value of all > remaining payments to be made on the bond (including > payments of quali- fied stated interest), produces an amount > equal to your basis in the bond. Figure the yield as of the > date you got the bond. It must be constant over the term of > the bond and must be figured to at least two decimal places > when expressed as a percentage. them, since that's an economically correct thing to do. In English, they are asking you to compute the yield-to-maturity of your bond, given the exact price you paid for it. So if you can find some physical or on-line calculator that can do that YTM calculation, their answer is the yield you're looking for. In more jargonized English, they are asking you to compute the internal rate of return (IRR) of the series of cash flows represented by your purchase price, the period payments of interest by the bond, and the final redemption of principal of the bond (or cash received from the call, as the case may be). The Invest FAQ (http://www.invest-faq.com) has some articles on IRR and net present value (NPV) that might be of some use to you. If you have access to Excel (and quite possibly some other spreadsheets) check the documentation and online help and see if there are any financial functions. I know that Excel can do a number of different IRR calculations and a bunch of bond amortization and yield calculations. However, those functions may not be installed by default. You might have to run Office Setup and install the Analysis Toolpak (or some similar name) for Excel. You might have some luck with some financial calculators (like the HP-12C) as well. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I think I understand about adjusting the basis of a bond each year for the premium paid for the bond, but what I'm puzzled by is the exact calculation for the IRS's Constant Yield Method. Here's a quote from Pub 550 on how to determine the yield: Step 1: determine your yield. Your yield is the discount rate that, when used in figuring the present value of all remaining payments to be made on the bond (including payments of quali- fied stated interest), produces an amount equal to your basis in the bond. Figure the yield as of the date you got the bond. It must be constant over the term of the bond and must be figured to at least two decimal places when expressed as a percentage. Could anybody help with an example? Once I know the yield, I think I can make the basis-adjustment calculations. BTW, my bond was called early, so that's why I need to compute an accurate basis. Thanks, Eric << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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