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| depends on the type of bond and how it was issued and acquired. big difference for bonds that pay taxable vs. tax-exempt (municipal) interest. Bond Premium Amortization If you pay a premium to buy a bond, the premium is part of your basis in the bond. If the bond yields taxable interest, you can choose to amortize the premium. This generally means that each year, over the life of the bond, you use a part of the premium to reduce the amount of interest includible in your income. If you make this choice, you must reduce your basis in the bond by the amortization for the year. If the bond yields tax-exempt interest, you must amortize the premium. This amortized amount is not deductible in determining taxable income. However, each year you must reduce your basis in the bond by the amortization for the year. Bond premium. Bond premium is the amount by which your basis in the bond right after you get it is more than the total of all amounts payable on the bond after you get it (other than payments of qualified stated interest). For example, a bond with a maturity value of $1,000 generally would have a $50 premium if you buy it for $1050. Basis. In general, your basis for figuring bond premium amortization is the same as your basis for figuring any loss on the sale of the bond. However, you may need to use a different basis for: a.. Convertible bonds, b.. Bonds you got in a trade, and c.. Bonds whose basis has to be determined using the basis of the person who transferred the bond to you. See section 1.171-1(e) of the regulations. also, http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p550.pdf -- thistaglineiscompressedusingadvancedtechnologies << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Joe C" <no-more-spam[at]no-spam.com> wrote: - quote - > If I buy a bond and pay over par, then I hold it to
You are correct, you can claim the difference as a capital loss.> maturity, is there any reason I can't claim the difference > as a loss? (I know there is a $3000 limitation). Larry << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Joe C <no-more-spam[at]no-spam.com> wrote: - quote - > If I buy a bond and pay over par, then I hold it to
If this is a taxable bond (corporate or Federal) you're> maturity, is there any reason I can't claim the difference > as a loss? (I know there is a $3000 limitation). considering, then you have two options: amortize the premium over the life of the bond, or take a capital loss at maturity. It's usually better to amortize, because the amortization offsets the bond income. If this is a tax-exempt bond, then you have to amortize, and the amortization offsets tax-exempt interest, giving you no tax benefit, and no capital loss when the bond matures. -- Chris Green << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Joe C wrote: - quote - > If I buy a bond and pay over par, then I hold it to
If the bond is non-taxable, the answer is no.> maturity, is there any reason I can't claim the difference > as a loss? (I know there is a $3000 limitation). http://www.investinginbonds.com/info/taxarticle.htm If the bond is taxable, and if you paid tax on the un-adjusted interest as you went along, yes. You could have elected to do a lot of math and to declare less interest each year. This is my non-pro assessment of the IRS Publication 550 in the section called Bond Premium Amortization. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Joe C" <no-more-spam[at]no-spam.com> wrote: - quote - > If I buy a bond and pay over par, then I hold it to
When you buy a bond at a premium, you have to amortize it> maturity, is there any reason I can't claim the difference > as a loss? (I know there is a $3000 limitation). over the remaining life of the bond. Therefore, if held to maturity, there is no loss to deduct. -- <<< Benjamin Yazersky CPA [NJ & NY] > > << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Joe C <no-more-spam[at]no-spam.com> wrote: - quote - > If I buy a bond and pay over par, then I hold it to
If it pays a coupon, you're supposed to accrete the price> maturity, is there any reason I can't claim the difference > as a loss? (I know there is a $3000 limitation). difference over the bond's life and subtracting it from the coupon. (If the accretion is greater than the coupon I don't know if you deduct it annually or at the end.) Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| If I buy a bond and pay over par, then I hold it to maturity, is there any reason I can't claim the difference as a loss? (I know there is a $3000 limitation). Thanks, Joe << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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