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Old 04-07-2004, 08:30 AM
Rich Carreiro
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Default Re: Self-employment tax deduction for MA?

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> > The MA statute says nothing about allowing a deduction for
> > taxes paid persuant to the Self Employment Contributions Act;
> > and as a self-employed person, you are paying SECA taxes,
> > not FICA or FRRA taxes. So I think you're out of luck.


> both the professional software packages i've used, tax
> relief and ultratax, credit self-employment tax as social
> security tax payments. so i'd suspect they're right and
> s.e. tax payments are valid for the MA deduction.


(1) In what context do they credit SE tax payments as SS tax
payments? Just because that may be true federally or
for some non-MA state doesn't mean it's true in MA.

(2) In the duelling anecdotes department :-), UTS's TaxWise
does *not* put the SE tax into the FICA+Medicare
deduction line on the MA return.

So I'm sticking with my answer :-)

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Old 04-05-2004, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: Self-employment tax deduction for MA?

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> The MA statute says nothing about allowing a deduction for
> taxes paid persuant to the Self Employment Contributions Act;
> and as a self-employed person, you are paying SECA taxes,
> not FICA or FRRA taxes. So I think you're out of luck.


both the professional software packages i've used, tax
relief and ultratax, credit self-employment tax as social
security tax payments. so i'd suspect they're right and
s.e. tax payments are valid for the MA deduction.

peter desmond

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Old 04-05-2004, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Self-employment tax deduction for MA?

Rich Carreiro <rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote:

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> As I said over in misc.taxes, I don't believe the deduction
> is allowed, since MGL 62 Section 3(B)(a)(3) says that the
> deduction is for "Taxes paid to the United States under the
> provisions of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act or the
> Federal Railroad Retirement Act."
> The MA statute says nothing about allowing a deduction for
> taxes paid persuant to the Self Employment Contributions Act;
> and as a self-employed person, you are paying SECA taxes,
> not FICA or FRRA taxes. So I think you're out of luck.


Thanks for the replies, Rich, I guess my tax program knew
what it was doing after all.

It's strange that the state would not allow the deduction
for self employment contributions (or at least half of it,
to match what W2 employees pay), since they are the same
tax. I wonder what the logic behind it was.

Although, it's probably illogical to expect logic in regards
to taxes and state government.

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Old 04-01-2004, 12:50 PM
Rich Carreiro
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Default Re: Self-employment tax deduction for MA?

cwaycwaycway[at]yahoo.com (Charlie Way) writes:

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> On the Massachusetts Form 1, on line 11, there is a
> deduction for FICA, up to $2000 each for husband and wife.
> My wife had only self-employment income for last year, and
> paid a fair amount of self-employment tax. Is any of this
> deductible on line 11 of the MA tax form?
> It seems like it should, since it's the same thing as FICA,
> but my tax program didn't put anything in there from the
> federal form.


As I said over in misc.taxes, I don't believe the deduction
is allowed, since MGL 62 Section 3(B)(a)(3) says that the
deduction is for "Taxes paid to the United States under the
provisions of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act or the
Federal Railroad Retirement Act."

The MA statute says nothing about allowing a deduction for
taxes paid persuant to the Self Employment Contributions Act;
and as a self-employed person, you are paying SECA taxes,
not FICA or FRRA taxes. So I think you're out of luck.

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Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us

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