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| Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > A wrote:
There's 2 ways to go. Either stick with withholding and> > My husband has a sole propreitorship(1099) in addition to > > his regular (W2) job. I work too as a w2 employee. Although > > our W2 incomes are pretty much fixed. But his business > > income varies quite a bit every year. Last year (2003) just > > happened to be a good one where he earned more money than we > > anticipated. Actually the payments that were due in 2002, he > > got those in 2003 and hence our income in 2003 increased > > quite a bit. Instead of being happy about this, we are > > disappointed, as turbo tax calculated our tax due to be > > quite a bit this year...but we didn't incur any penalty as > > we had paid 110% of estimated taxes. > > > The questions is if we go by the 110% of previous year > > option for filing Estimated taxes for 2004, we are screwed > > as our income was very high in 2003 and there is no way we > > will be making that much this year and there is no way we > > can make those kind of estimated payments (110% of 2003). > > Another thing is this year (2004) we are expecting a baby. > > Also I would be taking 3 months off from work under FMA to > > stay at home after delivery. This means my total w2 income > > would decrease for this year. > > > What should we do in this case. We are not in a position to > > do estimated payments of 110% of 2003. Should we do 100% of > > our projected 2004 earnings or 90%? What are the pros and > > cons of each. Let's say we go by 100% of 2004 (which I > > assume is still safer than 90%), would we incur any penalty? > > What about penalty of underpayment in a quareter. > > > My husband and I would be getting a regular W2 paychecks for > > the first quarter. we are expecting the baby around June > > this year...so the W2 income would actually go down in > > June,July,August and maybe September. As far as the business > > income goes, it is very unpredictable....some months are > > good...some are bad. What should we do...please advise? > > Turbo tax just aloows us to split the 100% of 2004 taxes in > > 4 equal amounts...would we fall short for the 1st qaurter. > > How can we remedy this. > Override the 1040es calculations and print the vouchers for > zero each. However IRS will probably send you your own > personalized set of vouchers. then you can use your > software to do the projections for each quarter and vary > your payments accordingly. > I do get the feeling though, that your taxes will be much > lower this year. > And it's no sin if you fall a tad short by next year. > After all, IRS underpayment interest rate of 5% isn't > exactly onerous these days. withhold enough in Dcember to pay either 100$ (or 120%) of last year's tax, or 90% of what your 2004 taxes will be. OR compute your minimum deposit to satisfy the form 2210 Annualized Income Method minimum payement with withholding and an installment. TT can't do this (as you discovered) but you can get a "2210 tax calculator" from someone on the web. put that, or "tax installment calculator" into any search engine. good luck. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| axast[at]yahoo.com (A) posted: - quote - > [shortened]
Just enough of the question to make the point that "program> What should we do in this case. We are not in > a position to do estimated payments of 110% > of 2003. Should we do 100% of our projected > 2004 earnings or 90%? What are the pros and > cons of each. Let's say we go by 100% of > 2004 (which I assume is still safer than 90%), > would we incur any penalty? What about > penalty of underpayment in a quareter. > My husband and I would be getting a regular > W2 paychecks for the first quarter. we are > expecting the baby around June this year...so > the W2 income would actually go down in > June,July,August and maybe September. As > far as the business income goes, it is very > unpredictable....some months are good...some > are bad. What should we do...please advise? > Turbo tax just aloows us to split the 100% of > 2004 taxes in 4 equal amounts...would we fall > short for the 1st qaurter. How can we remedy > this. filing" (a la Turbo) may constrict us. In the paper world, one could file [at] 100%, then monitor and adjust *actual* payments. If one has an unexpectedly great third quarter, simply increase the Sep 15 estimated tax payment accordingly. Bill << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A wrote: - quote - > My husband has a sole propreitorship(1099) in addition to
Override the 1040es calculations and print the vouchers for> his regular (W2) job. I work too as a w2 employee. Although > our W2 incomes are pretty much fixed. But his business > income varies quite a bit every year. Last year (2003) just > happened to be a good one where he earned more money than we > anticipated. Actually the payments that were due in 2002, he > got those in 2003 and hence our income in 2003 increased > quite a bit. Instead of being happy about this, we are > disappointed, as turbo tax calculated our tax due to be > quite a bit this year...but we didn't incur any penalty as > we had paid 110% of estimated taxes. > The questions is if we go by the 110% of previous year > option for filing Estimated taxes for 2004, we are screwed > as our income was very high in 2003 and there is no way we > will be making that much this year and there is no way we > can make those kind of estimated payments (110% of 2003). > Another thing is this year (2004) we are expecting a baby. > Also I would be taking 3 months off from work under FMA to > stay at home after delivery. This means my total w2 income > would decrease for this year. > What should we do in this case. We are not in a position to > do estimated payments of 110% of 2003. Should we do 100% of > our projected 2004 earnings or 90%? What are the pros and > cons of each. Let's say we go by 100% of 2004 (which I > assume is still safer than 90%), would we incur any penalty? > What about penalty of underpayment in a quareter. > My husband and I would be getting a regular W2 paychecks for > the first quarter. we are expecting the baby around June > this year...so the W2 income would actually go down in > June,July,August and maybe September. As far as the business > income goes, it is very unpredictable....some months are > good...some are bad. What should we do...please advise? > Turbo tax just aloows us to split the 100% of 2004 taxes in > 4 equal amounts...would we fall short for the 1st qaurter. > How can we remedy this. zero each. However IRS will probably send you your own personalized set of vouchers. then you can use your software to do the projections for each quarter and vary your payments accordingly. I do get the feeling though, that your taxes will be much lower this year. And it's no sin if you fall a tad short by next year. After all, IRS underpayment interest rate of 5% isn't exactly onerous these days. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| My husband has a sole propreitorship(1099) in addition to his regular (W2) job. I work too as a w2 employee. Although our W2 incomes are pretty much fixed. But his business income varies quite a bit every year. Last year (2003) just happened to be a good one where he earned more money than we anticipated. Actually the payments that were due in 2002, he got those in 2003 and hence our income in 2003 increased quite a bit. Instead of being happy about this, we are disappointed, as turbo tax calculated our tax due to be quite a bit this year...but we didn't incur any penalty as we had paid 110% of estimated taxes. The questions is if we go by the 110% of previous year option for filing Estimated taxes for 2004, we are screwed as our income was very high in 2003 and there is no way we will be making that much this year and there is no way we can make those kind of estimated payments (110% of 2003). Another thing is this year (2004) we are expecting a baby. Also I would be taking 3 months off from work under FMA to stay at home after delivery. This means my total w2 income would decrease for this year. What should we do in this case. We are not in a position to do estimated payments of 110% of 2003. Should we do 100% of our projected 2004 earnings or 90%? What are the pros and cons of each. Let's say we go by 100% of 2004 (which I assume is still safer than 90%), would we incur any penalty? What about penalty of underpayment in a quareter. My husband and I would be getting a regular W2 paychecks for the first quarter. we are expecting the baby around June this year...so the W2 income would actually go down in June,July,August and maybe September. As far as the business income goes, it is very unpredictable....some months are good...some are bad. What should we do...please advise? Turbo tax just aloows us to split the 100% of 2004 taxes in 4 equal amounts...would we fall short for the 1st qaurter. How can we remedy this. TAX GURUS, PLEASE HELP ! << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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