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Of course I defer to your local knowledge. Depending on the> > > not, does it matter to my daughter? Should she just file the > > > returns for both states (NY resident and NJ nonresident) > > > using the amounts on the W-2 as they are? > > No, the employer was not correct to withhold for both > > states, but since it did, she should go ahead and use the > > W-2's as they are to claim credit for the taxes withheld. > > They should have withheld only for NJ, and for NY if at all, > > only to the extent that the NY withholding would have been > > more than the NJ withholding. > I hate to take exception to your replies, but in this > instance I think you are being overly cautious. First. I > don't see any error in the employer withholding in both > states, it happens all the time. In fact, if the employer > has nexus in NY he has no choice. You are correct that the > NY withholding should be net of the NJ tax, but we do not > know that it is not. > > You may have a problem with the NY credit for the tax paid > > to NJ, because the W-2 looks to NY as though she earned the > > income in NY. I would attach BOTH W-2's to the NY return > > and also attach a statement explaining the error. Not that > > NY will likely look at any of that when the return is > > processed, but when they ask the question (or deny the > > credit) you can just send them another copy of the same > > information. And you can have the satisfaction of saying to > > the DOR, you dummies, the information was on the return, why > > didn't you read it? <G > I also don't see any potential problem with the credit, nor > do I see NY even questioning this. The wages are shown as > NJ wages because that is where the services were performed, > and as NY wages because of residency. This is also very > common and happens all the time. I doubt it will create the > least bit of a problem. In fact, everything in this > situation seems to be in order and just as it should be. > I fully agree with Phil's description of the sequence in > which the returns should be prepared. OP's total income, the NJ tax may be less than the NY tax on the same income and it may have been appropriate for the employer to withhold the excess NY tax. Katie << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > You may have a problem with the NY credit for the tax paid
But the wages are not shown as NJ wages on the NY copy of> > to NJ, because the W-2 looks to NY as though she earned the > > income in NY. I would attach BOTH W-2's to the NY return > > and also attach a statement explaining the error. > I also don't see any potential problem with the credit, nor > do I see NY even questioning this. The wages are shown as > NJ wages because that is where the services were performed, > and as NY wages because of residency. the W-2. That copy shows only NY wages. It seems reasonable to think that that might make NY question the credit. So I like Katie Jaques' suggestion to attach both W-2s to the NY return. (Actually I think I'll just attach a copy of the federal W-2, which shows both states on one form.) That way the NJ wages will in fact be shown, so NY state will be able to clearly see NJ wages. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > Was the employer correct to withhold tax for both states? If
I hate to take exception to your replies, but in this> > not, does it matter to my daughter? Should she just file the > > returns for both states (NY resident and NJ nonresident) > > using the amounts on the W-2 as they are? > No, the employer was not correct to withhold for both > states, but since it did, she should go ahead and use the > W-2's as they are to claim credit for the taxes withheld. > They should have withheld only for NJ, and for NY if at all, > only to the extent that the NY withholding would have been > more than the NJ withholding. instance I think you are being overly cautious. First. I don't see any error in the employer withholding in both states, it happens all the time. In fact, if the employer has nexus in NY he has no choice. You are correct that the NY withholding should be net of the NJ tax, but we do not know that it is not. - quote - > You may have a problem with the NY credit for the tax paid
do I see NY even questioning this. The wages are shown as> to NJ, because the W-2 looks to NY as though she earned the > income in NY. I would attach BOTH W-2's to the NY return > and also attach a statement explaining the error. Not that > NY will likely look at any of that when the return is > processed, but when they ask the question (or deny the > credit) you can just send them another copy of the same > information. And you can have the satisfaction of saying to > the DOR, you dummies, the information was on the return, why > didn't you read it? <G I also don't see any potential problem with the credit, nor NJ wages because that is where the services were performed, and as NY wages because of residency. This is also very common and happens all the time. I doubt it will create the least bit of a problem. In fact, everything in this situation seems to be in order and just as it should be. I fully agree with Phil's description of the sequence in which the returns should be prepared. -- Bruce E. Cobern, CPA mailto:bec[at]pipeline.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Bob Sandler <bob_usenet[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > My adult daughter, who lives in New York City, worked in New
No, the employer was not correct to withhold for both> Jersey for part of 2003. All the work was done in the > employer's corporate headquarters in NJ. She did not do any > work in NY for this employer. However, the NJ employer > withheld taxes for both NJ and NY on the same income. Her > federal W-2 has two lines in boxes 15 - 17. One line shows > NJ wages and tax withheld, and the other line shows NY wages > and tax. The federal, NJ, and NY wages are all the same > amount, and are equal to the total amount she earned. In > other words, they did not split her wages between NJ and NY. > They reported her total wages as the state wages for both > states. > Her W-2 form has two state Copy 2s, one with just the NJ > information, and one with just the NY information. (They > also withheld NYC tax, and this is shown on the federal > copies B and C, and the NY copy 2.) > Was the employer correct to withhold tax for both states? If > not, does it matter to my daughter? Should she just file the > returns for both states (NY resident and NJ nonresident) > using the amounts on the W-2 as they are? states, but since it did, she should go ahead and use the W-2's as they are to claim credit for the taxes withheld. They should have withheld only for NJ, and for NY if at all, only to the extent that the NY withholding would have been more than the NJ withholding. You may have a problem with the NY credit for the tax paid to NJ, because the W-2 looks to NY as though she earned the income in NY. I would attach BOTH W-2's to the NY return and also attach a statement explaining the error. Not that NY will likely look at any of that when the return is processed, but when they ask the question (or deny the credit) you can just send them another copy of the same information. And you can have the satisfaction of saying to the DOR, you dummies, the information was on the return, why didn't you read it? <G Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Bob Sandler <bob_usenet[at]yahoo.com> writes: - quote - > Her W-2 form has two state Copy 2s, one with just the NJ
The employer was either very thoughtful or has a nexus in NY> information, and one with just the NY information. (They > also withheld NYC tax, and this is shown on the federal > copies B and C, and the NY copy 2.) > Was the employer correct to withhold tax for both states? that requires it to comply with NY withholding requirements. Your daughter should prepare her returns in this order: 1. Federal 2. NJ (nonresident) 3. NY, paying special attention to credit for tax paid to another state. Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| My adult daughter, who lives in New York City, worked in New Jersey for part of 2003. All the work was done in the employer's corporate headquarters in NJ. She did not do any work in NY for this employer. However, the NJ employer withheld taxes for both NJ and NY on the same income. Her federal W-2 has two lines in boxes 15 - 17. One line shows NJ wages and tax withheld, and the other line shows NY wages and tax. The federal, NJ, and NY wages are all the same amount, and are equal to the total amount she earned. In other words, they did not split her wages between NJ and NY. They reported her total wages as the state wages for both states. Her W-2 form has two state Copy 2s, one with just the NJ information, and one with just the NY information. (They also withheld NYC tax, and this is shown on the federal copies B and C, and the NY copy 2.) Was the employer correct to withhold tax for both states? If not, does it matter to my daughter? Should she just file the returns for both states (NY resident and NJ nonresident) using the amounts on the W-2 as they are? Bob Sandler << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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