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Neither - it's the grandfather's original cost basis. If> value when he turned 18 or is it figured from the account > origination date in March 1984? the grandfather is dead or is alive and doesn't know the basis, then the basis is zero for the shares that were gifted. Dividends reinvested after the gift into additional shares have a basis of the dividend amount. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Reiner" <reiner[at]i-55.com> wrote in news:103sdnl9kh5sa54 - quote - > In 1984 his grandfather set up an account under the "Unifom
This question makes no sense to me. Cost basis of what?> Gift to Minors Act (UGMA)". In June 2001, he turned 18 & > took over the account. In January 2003, he cashed in the > account to use for college costs. I've been all over the web > & can't find anything that helps me figure out his cost > basis. > My question is: Do I figure his cost basis using the account > value when he turned 18 or is it figured from the account > origination date in March 1984? Cash has a basis of its face value. If there was interest or dividends over the years, it should have been included in the minor's taxable income. If it was a gift of other property, the basis is the same basis the donor had. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Reiner wrote: - quote - > I'm trying to help a college student with his taxes.
The key word is gift, the basis is generally the> In 1984 his grandfather set up an account under the "Unifom > Gift to Minors Act (UGMA)". In June 2001, he turned 18 & > took over the account. In January 2003, he cashed in the > account to use for college costs. I've been all over the web > & can't find anything that helps me figure out his cost > basis. > My question is: Do I figure his cost basis using the account > value when he turned 18 or is it figured from the account > origination date in March 1984? grandfather's basis "cost". -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > In 1984 his grandfather set up an account under the "Unifom
His basis is the original cost. He owned the account the> Gift to Minors Act (UGMA)". In June 2001, he turned 18 & > took over the account. In January 2003, he cashed in the > account to use for college costs. . . . > My question is: Do I figure his cost basis using the account > value when he turned 18 or is it figured from the account > origination date in March 1984? whole time. His grandfather was just managing it for him. There was no change of ownership when he turned 18. However, you have me wondering a bit because you did not say what kind of account this was, and you did not use the word "sold." Did the account contain assets such as stocks, bonds, or mutual funds, or was it just money - a bank account or certificate of deposit? Did he get a 1099-B when he "cashed in" the account? If it was a bank account or CD, then he didn't sell anything when he cashed it in. In that case basis is meaningless and there is no transaction to report on his tax return. Bob Sandler (not a tax professional) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Reiner wrote: - quote - > I'm trying to help a college student with his taxes.
What happened in 1984? Was it a one-time purchase of a> In 1984 his grandfather set up an account under the "Unifom > Gift to Minors Act (UGMA)". In June 2001, he turned 18 & > took over the account. In January 2003, he cashed in the > account to use for college costs. I've been all over the web > & can't find anything that helps me figure out his cost > basis. > My question is: Do I figure his cost basis using the account > value when he turned 18 or is it figured from the account > origination date in March 1984? > Thank you for any help you can give. stock? If so, that cost in 1984 is the basis. You can likely find a range of values the IRS would be happy with. Consider, 20 years at 10% takes $1000 to appr $8000. If you claim $7000 or claim $7500 (gain), the tax difference may be $50. Just do your best to track down the acctual numbers. JOE << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Reiner wrote: - quote - > I'm trying to help a college student with his taxes.
The grandchild has been the owner of the account since 1984> In 1984 his grandfather set up an account under the "Unifom > Gift to Minors Act (UGMA)". In June 2001, he turned 18 & > took over the account. In January 2003, he cashed in the > account to use for college costs. I've been all over the web > & can't find anything that helps me figure out his cost > basis. > My question is: Do I figure his cost basis using the account > value when he turned 18 or is it figured from the account > origination date in March 1984? and should have been reporting income on the investments if the child was required to file tax returns. As the child has always been the owner any asset that was purchased with funds in the account has as its cost basis whatever was paid for the asset. If someone gifted an asset into the account, the cost basis in the hands of the donor transferred to the donee. There is an exception to this last rule if at the time of the gift the FMV was less than the cost basis. If sold at a gain, you use the donor's cost basis. If sold at a loss you use the FMV on the date of the gift as the cost basis. All the rules for adjustments to cost basis are in play. Finally, if the FMV was higher than the donor's basis at the time of the gift and the donor paid any gift tax on that gift, the amount of gift tax paid is added to the donor's cost basis to arrive at the donee's cost basis. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I'm trying to help a college student with his taxes. In 1984 his grandfather set up an account under the "Unifom Gift to Minors Act (UGMA)". In June 2001, he turned 18 & took over the account. In January 2003, he cashed in the account to use for college costs. I've been all over the web & can't find anything that helps me figure out his cost basis. My question is: Do I figure his cost basis using the account value when he turned 18 or is it figured from the account origination date in March 1984? Thank you for any help you can give. Reiner Eggendorfer reiner"at"i-55.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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