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| - quote - > I founded a non-public California "C" corporation in 1999
If the corporation was dissolved in 2003, you cannot deduct> that I dissolved in 2003 . . . In 2004, can I in any way > deduct . . . the debt or stock as a loss in 2004. The loss must be recognized in the year of complete worthlessness. - quote - > if I owned stock in another corporation that
The loss should be deducted in the year that a reasonable> never went public that similarly was eventually dissolved (a > dot-gone), but I do not know what year it officially > dissolved, can I write off that loss in 2004 even if the > actual loss occurred in 2001? I cannot find anyone who > knows when the company went bankrupt, and I only found out > in 2003 that the company no longer existed. However, I > still have a stock certificate that is now worthless, and so > it would be nice to write off that loss in 2004, if > possible. person in similar circumstances would have realized the fact the stock was worthless. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Frank" <my2004taxes[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Background: I founded a non-public California "C"
With the caveat that I'd need lots more info - you can> corporation in 1999 that I dissolved in 2003 without the "C" > corporation ever repaying the personal loans I made to it. > I also purchased stock in the same non-public corporation > that is also now worthless. > Question: In 2004, can I in any way deduct the complete-loss > personal loans I made to the C Corp on my personal income > tax return? If so, how? > Question: In 2004, can I deduct the amount I paid for the > stock in the "C" Corp. as a loss? If so, how? The "C" Corp > never went public, and I was the major shareholder. > Question: Also, if I owned stock in another corporation that > never went public that similarly was eventually dissolved (a > dot-gone), but I do not know what year it officially > dissolved, can I write off that loss in 2004 even if the > actual loss occurred in 2001? I cannot find anyone who > knows when the company went bankrupt, and I only found out > in 2003 that the company no longer existed. However, I > still have a stock certificate that is now worthless, and so > it would be nice to write off that loss in 2004, if > possible. likely deduct the loans as non-business bad debts. These get treated as short term capital losses and your deductions are limited to no more than $3,000 for losses in excess of gains in any particular year. FYI - had you treated the money you put into the corporation as original issue stock purchases you might have qualified the total loss as an ordinary loss under IRC 1244. In which case you could potentially write off as much as $100K in one year, which could create a NOL that you could carry forward or back to get some additional tax benefit - rather than just using it up $3K at a time. This is one of those things that you get from working with knowledgeable tax professionals. Gene E. Utterback, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Background: I founded a non-public California "C" corporation in 1999 that I dissolved in 2003 without the "C" corporation ever repaying the personal loans I made to it. I also purchased stock in the same non-public corporation that is also now worthless. Question: In 2004, can I in any way deduct the complete-loss personal loans I made to the C Corp on my personal income tax return? If so, how? Question: In 2004, can I deduct the amount I paid for the stock in the "C" Corp. as a loss? If so, how? The "C" Corp never went public, and I was the major shareholder. Question: Also, if I owned stock in another corporation that never went public that similarly was eventually dissolved (a dot-gone), but I do not know what year it officially dissolved, can I write off that loss in 2004 even if the actual loss occurred in 2001? I cannot find anyone who knows when the company went bankrupt, and I only found out in 2003 that the company no longer existed. However, I still have a stock certificate that is now worthless, and so it would be nice to write off that loss in 2004, if possible. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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