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| Kenneth G. Jarvis, CPA wrote: - quote - > Have a new client that has been working in the UK for a US
See IRS Revenue Ruling 72-497. It addresses the foreign earned> company with government contracts. Due to the nature of > employment he falls under the status of forces agreement > which prevents his income from being taxed in the host > country (UK). That is if I understand it correctly. > In 2003, he moved back to the US for good and it appears > that he receives a prorated foreign income exclusion the > work in the UK. If so, the total amount of income earned in > the UK is tax free from the UK and US. Sounds too good to > be true. Is there something I am missing. > In 2002, he was considered a bonifide resident of the UK for > the entire year. In 2002, all of his US income taxes was > eliminated from tax as a result of taking the foreign income > exclusion. Again, sounds too good to be true. No tax in > the UK due to the status of forces agreement and no taxes in > the US due to the foreign income exclusion. Doesn't sound > right. What am I missing. income exclusion under Sec. 911(a)(1) for citizens employed abroad under a Status of Forces agreement. http://www.taxlinks.com/rulings/1972/revrul72-497.htm I've never had to personally address this issue. The ruling is quite clear that an individual covered by the agreement is not a bona fide resident of the foreign country. Therefore, for tax year 2002, this person would not have been eligible for the Sec. 911(a)(1) exclusion as a bona fide resident of the UK. What's not clear to me is whether that same person can use the physical presence test to meet the definition of a "qualified individual" whose tax home is in a foreign country. I leave it to others to read the ruling and voice their opinions. Just an aside, there is not enough information provided such that one could make a determination as to where this person's tax home was located. Having a foreign tax home is a separate requirement for the exclusion. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Kenneth G. Jarvis, CPA wrote: - quote - > Have a new client that has been working in the UK for a US
IMHO the status of forces exemption from UK taxes means that> company with government contracts. Due to the nature of > employment he falls under the status of forces agreement > which prevents his income from being taxed in the host > country (UK). That is if I understand it correctly. > In 2003, he moved back to the US for good and it appears > that he receives a prorated foreign income exclusion the > work in the UK. If so, the total amount of income earned in > the UK is tax free from the UK and US. Sounds too good to > be true. Is there something I am missing. > In 2002, he was considered a bonifide resident of the UK for > the entire year. In 2002, all of his US income taxes was > eliminated from tax as a result of taking the foreign income > exclusion. Again, sounds too good to be true. No tax in > the UK due to the status of forces agreement and no taxes in > the US due to the foreign income exclusion. Doesn't sound > right. What am I missing. income is treated as if he earned the income while IN the USA. That income is not treated as foreign income because the US military base is treated as US territory and he is therefore not out of the USA. I suggest he contact the UK state department location that handles US income taxes on US military income. -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Kenneth G. Jarvis, CPA wrote: - quote - > Have a new client that has been working in the UK for a US
This could be true but I do think there is a question about> company with government contracts. Due to the nature of > employment he falls under the status of forces agreement > which prevents his income from being taxed in the host > country (UK). That is if I understand it correctly. > In 2003, he moved back to the US for good and it appears > that he receives a prorated foreign income exclusion the > work in the UK. If so, the total amount of income earned in > the UK is tax free from the UK and US. Sounds too good to > be true. Is there something I am missing. > In 2002, he was considered a bonifide resident of the UK for > the entire year. In 2002, all of his US income taxes was > eliminated from tax as a result of taking the foreign income > exclusion. Again, sounds too good to be true. No tax in > the UK due to the status of forces agreement and no taxes in > the US due to the foreign income exclusion. Doesn't sound > right. What am I missing. the calculations. If he was not required to pay UK taxes, I do not believe he can qualify as a bona fide resident. He might still get the exclusion but he would have to meet the physical presence rules to do so. As long as he was physically present in the UK for 330 days during the previous year, he would be entitled to claim the exclusion. He would have to meet the 330 day rule in 2003, also, but could count back from the day he returned to the US. The 330 day rule says that a taxpayer must be physically present in one or more foreign countries for at least 330 days out of any twelve month period. This means 12 months beginning or ending during the tax year. So, for all years, the taxpayers exclusion would be a pro rated amount based on the ration between the number of days outside the US to the total number of days in the year. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Have a new client that has been working in the UK for a US company with government contracts. Due to the nature of employment he falls under the status of forces agreement which prevents his income from being taxed in the host country (UK). That is if I understand it correctly. In 2003, he moved back to the US for good and it appears that he receives a prorated foreign income exclusion the work in the UK. If so, the total amount of income earned in the UK is tax free from the UK and US. Sounds too good to be true. Is there something I am missing. In 2002, he was considered a bonifide resident of the UK for the entire year. In 2002, all of his US income taxes was eliminated from tax as a result of taking the foreign income exclusion. Again, sounds too good to be true. No tax in the UK due to the status of forces agreement and no taxes in the US due to the foreign income exclusion. Doesn't sound right. What am I missing. Any help or advice is appreciated. Best Regards, Ken << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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