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| Al Bundy wrote: - quote - > philmarti[at]aol.com (Phil Marti) wrote in news:103m4bmi69sm1f0
Nope. Both take the full standard deduction for their> > Al Bundy <postmaster[at]127.0.0.1> writes: > > > Special Rules > > > > > If you choose married filing separately as your filing > > > status, the following special rules apply. > > > > > 11) If your spouse itemizes deductions, you cannot claim the > > > standard deduction. If you can claim the standard deduction, > > > it is half the amount allowed on a joint return. > > Unusually badly written for an IRS Pub. The sentences stand > > alone and do not conflict with each other. The first > > sentence says that both spouses must use the same deduction > > system. The second sentence says that if they use standard > > deduction, each gets a standard deduction equal to half the > > joint standard deduction. > > > For a less confusing statement, see the verbiage beginning > > after the first "TIP" in Chapter 22 of Pub 17 (bullet 1). > Lemme see if I got this now then. > MFS situation: > Spouse itemizes. > Other cannot take standard deduction. > Should itemize no matter what. > MFS situation: > Neither itemizes. > Both take 1/2 standard deduction. category. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Al Bundy <postmaster[at]127.0.0.1> writes: - quote - > Lemme see if I got this now then.
As to your last statement, each takes the standard deduction> MFS situation: > Spouse itemizes. > Other cannot take standard deduction. > Should itemize no matter what. > MFS situation: > Neither itemizes. > Both take 1/2 standard deduction. for the MFS filing status. That just happens to be 1/2 of the standard deduction for MFJ. Otherwise, bingo! Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| philmarti[at]aol.com (Phil Marti) wrote in news:103m4bmi69sm1f0 - quote - > Al Bundy <postmaster[at]127.0.0.1> writes:
Lemme see if I got this now then.> > Special Rules > > > If you choose married filing separately as your filing > > status, the following special rules apply. > > > 11) If your spouse itemizes deductions, you cannot claim the > > standard deduction. If you can claim the standard deduction, > > it is half the amount allowed on a joint return. > Unusually badly written for an IRS Pub. The sentences stand > alone and do not conflict with each other. The first > sentence says that both spouses must use the same deduction > system. The second sentence says that if they use standard > deduction, each gets a standard deduction equal to half the > joint standard deduction. > For a less confusing statement, see the verbiage beginning > after the first "TIP" in Chapter 22 of Pub 17 (bullet 1). MFS situation: Spouse itemizes. Other cannot take standard deduction. Should itemize no matter what. MFS situation: Neither itemizes. Both take 1/2 standard deduction. ?????? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Al Bundy wrote: - quote - > kamlet[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote:
then what changed?> > EFranklin <evcpa9[at]netscape.net> wrote: > > > Can one spouse itemize and the other spouse take the > > > standard deduction. Recently married in June 2003 and > > > wife has filed married filing separate. > > Then husband's standard deduction is zero, and the only > > deduction available to him is from itemizing. > Those are 2002 rules I think. > 2003: > Pub 17 pg 24-25 > Special Rules > If you choose married filing separately as your filing > status, the following special rules apply. > 11) If your spouse itemizes deductions, you cannot claim the > standard deduction. If you can claim the standard deduction, > it is half the amount allowed on a joint return. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Al Bundy <postmaster[at]127.0.0.1> writes: - quote - > Special Rules
Unusually badly written for an IRS Pub. The sentences stand> If you choose married filing separately as your filing > status, the following special rules apply. > 11) If your spouse itemizes deductions, you cannot claim the > standard deduction. If you can claim the standard deduction, > it is half the amount allowed on a joint return. alone and do not conflict with each other. The first sentence says that both spouses must use the same deduction system. The second sentence says that if they use standard deduction, each gets a standard deduction equal to half the joint standard deduction. For a less confusing statement, see the verbiage beginning after the first "TIP" in Chapter 22 of Pub 17 (bullet 1). Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| kamlet[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote: - quote - > EFranklin <evcpa9[at]netscape.net> wrote:
Those are 2002 rules I think.> > Can one spouse itemize and the other spouse take the > > standard deduction. Recently married in June 2003 and > > wife has filed married filing separate. > Then husband's standard deduction is zero, and the only > deduction available to him is from itemizing. 2003: Pub 17 pg 24-25 Special Rules If you choose married filing separately as your filing status, the following special rules apply. 11) If your spouse itemizes deductions, you cannot claim the standard deduction. If you can claim the standard deduction, it is half the amount allowed on a joint return. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| EFranklin wrote: - quote - > Can one spouse itemize and the other spouse take the
No: Specifically not allowed.> standard deduction. Recently married in June 2003 and > wife has filed married filing separate. However, if both qualify for head-of-household, the "unmarried" treatment via section 7703 (from the reference in IRC 63(g)) means that the rule in 63(c)(6)(A) requiring married-separate filers to match doesn't apply. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > Can one spouse itemize and the other spouse take the
No.> standard deduction. - quote - > Recently married in June 2003 and
Gee, I guess the honeymoon is over. They can amed that to> wife has filed married filing separate. file a joint return if it's too their advantage. Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| EFranklin <evcpa9[at]netscape.net> wrote in news:103g1sq4djg3bd6 - quote - > Can one spouse itemize and the other spouse take the
Pub 17 pg 24-25> standard deduction. Recently married in June 2003 and > wife has filed married filing separate. Special Rules If you choose married filing separately as your filing status, the following special rules apply. 11) If your spouse itemizes deductions, you cannot claim the standard deduction. If you can claim the standard deduction, it is half the amount allowed on a joint return. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "EFranklin" <evcpa9[at]netscape.net> wrote: - quote - > Can one spouse itemize and the other spouse take the
No.> standard deduction. Recently married in June 2003 and > wife has filed married filing separate. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| EFranklin <evcpa9[at]netscape.net> wrote: - quote - > Can one spouse itemize and the other spouse take the
Then husband's standard deduction is zero, and the only> standard deduction. Recently married in June 2003 and > wife has filed married filing separate. deduction available to him is from itemizing. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| EFranklin wrote: - quote - > Can one spouse itemize and the other spouse take the
No. They both have to compute deductions using the same method.> standard deduction. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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