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| John B wrote: - quote - > I am a 76 year old California widower with no children or
The mere fact that you use the term "devious action" leads> dependents. When I die, (in about 15 years :-), I would like > to leave my mutual fund savings to a senior handicapped lady > who is on SSI Disability. (I believe she gets about $800 per > month). > I understand that if I leave her any money, she has to pay > back the SSI money she has already received from the > government. In effect, I would be giving my money, not to > her, but to the State and Federal government.=A0=A0I can > understand the rationale, and I love my government, but not > that much. > If I were completely unethical, say I was an ex-CEO or > politician, could I cash in my mutual funds, (I don't really > need them), convert the cash to $100 bills, and leave them > in a shoe box where she can find them after I die. That way, > she could have some kind of life. Buy her clothes at > Mervyn's instead of Goodwill, etc. > I live in a nice mobile home. If I leave it to her, and she > lives in it, will she have to sell it to reimburse the govt? > She has no other home. > The lady doesn't file any income tax and presumably will > never do so. Hopefully I will be beyond the reach of the > IRS, (unless I am in Hell ), but is the above hypothetically > doable? Is there something I am missing, or is there some > other devious action I can take? me to believe that you are already aware that her actions to conceal funds to obtain SSI and/or Medi-Cal payments would be a felony. I don't know where you and she live in CA, but there are organizations that provide free legal advice to the elderly especially relating to SSI and Medi-Cal and the rules for qualifying and maintaining eligibility. E.g., in Los Angeles County you can obtain this advice from Bet Tzedek (The House of Justice). You can visit their website for more information. http://www.bettzedek.org/ or call them at (323) 939-0506. If you live outside Los Angeles, you can call the local county bar associations and ask them for a listing of organizations that provide free legal counseling for low income seniors. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| JohnBradford2[at]webtv.net (John B) wrote - quote - > I am a 76 year old California widower with no children or
Actually, you're better off talking to a private social> dependents. When I die, (in about 15 years :-), I would like > to leave my mutual fund savings to a senior handicapped lady > who is on SSI Disability. (I believe she gets about $800 per > month). worker than anybody here for the questions you have. - quote - > I understand that if I leave her any money, she has to pay
I believe there's a way to leave it to her in a> back the SSI money she has already received from the > government. In effect, I would be giving my money, not to > her, but to the State and Federal government.=A0=A0I can > understand the rationale, and I love my government, but not > that much. discretionary trust, so that she will still qualify for SSI. It's called a Special Needs Trust. I'm not an expert on these trusts, though. - quote - > I live in a nice mobile home. If I leave it to her, and she
I believe that her home would be exempt from going to the> lives in it, will she have to sell it to reimburse the govt? > She has no other home. government or being counted as a disqualifying asset, at least as long as she's alive. When she dies her estate may be required to pay the government back, and your mobile home would be sold to pay them. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| JohnBradford2[at]webtv.net (John B) writes: - quote - > Is there something I am missing, or is there some
You need to talk to a lawyer well versed in SSI law, not a> other devious action I can take? tax advisor. Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I am a 76 year old California widower with no children or dependents. When I die, (in about 15 years :-), I would like to leave my mutual fund savings to a senior handicapped lady who is on SSI Disability. (I believe she gets about $800 per month). I understand that if I leave her any money, she has to pay back the SSI money she has already received from the government. In effect, I would be giving my money, not to her, but to the State and Federal government.=A0=A0I can understand the rationale, and I love my government, but not that much. If I were completely unethical, say I was an ex-CEO or politician, could I cash in my mutual funds, (I don't really need them), convert the cash to $100 bills, and leave them in a shoe box where she can find them after I die. That way, she could have some kind of life. Buy her clothes at Mervyn's instead of Goodwill, etc. I live in a nice mobile home. If I leave it to her, and she lives in it, will she have to sell it to reimburse the govt? She has no other home. The lady doesn't file any income tax and presumably will never do so. Hopefully I will be beyond the reach of the IRS, (unless I am in Hell ), but is the above hypothetically doable? Is there something I am missing, or is there some other devious action I can take? Thanks, John. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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