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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > A.G. Kalman wrote:
It may very well be the parent in whose home the child lives> > The code and regs refer to a child who is in custody of the > > parent for purposes of the special rule for divorced or > > separated parents. As I have stated in other posts, I don't > > believe an emancipated child (she is age 22) is in custody > > of either parent. > Acknowledged. > > As such, in this instance, the parent who provided more than > > half of the total support would get the exemption. > Sounds like it's more likely to be the parent who has > physical custody, due to the inclusion of part of the > cost of maintaining the residence as "support". In > addition, if she provides some of her own support, > including taxable or non-taxable scholarships, it may > be that neither parent provides over 50%, so they would > need the multiple support agreement (2120?) to determine > which parent gets the exemption. as the fair rental value value of lodging may be used as part of the total support. However, the rule is still who provided more than half of the total support, not the special rule for divorced, separated or unmarried parents. If there are multiple providers such that no one provider meets the > 50% test, then yes the multiple support agreement may be relevant. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin[at]sprintmail.com> wrote: - quote - > A.G. Kalman wrote:
Well, in my case, I also paid more than half of the cost of> > The code and regs refer to a child who is in custody of the > > parent for purposes of the special rule for divorced or > > separated parents. As I have stated in other posts, I don't > > believe an emancipated child (she is age 22) is in custody > > of either parent. > Acknowledged. > > As such, in this instance, the parent who provided more than > > half of the total support would get the exemption. > Sounds like it's more likely to be the parent who has > physical custody, due to the inclusion of part of the > cost of maintaining the residence as "support". In > addition, if she provides some of her own support, > including taxable or non-taxable scholarships, it may > be that neither parent provides over 50%, so they would > need the multiple support agreement (2120?) to determine > which parent gets the exemption. my ex-wife's residence, and I know how much income/scholarships my duaghter had, so I know I've provided more than half of her support. In any event, I don't think anyone has custody, physical or legal, of someone over 21(assuming no health or diminished capacity issues.) Thanks for your thoughts. Bill << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A.G. Kalman wrote: - quote - > The code and regs refer to a child who is in custody of the
Acknowledged.> parent for purposes of the special rule for divorced or > separated parents. As I have stated in other posts, I don't > believe an emancipated child (she is age 22) is in custody > of either parent. - quote - > As such, in this instance, the parent who provided more than
Sounds like it's more likely to be the parent who has> half of the total support would get the exemption. physical custody, due to the inclusion of part of the cost of maintaining the residence as "support". In addition, if she provides some of her own support, including taxable or non-taxable scholarships, it may be that neither parent provides over 50%, so they would need the multiple support agreement (2120?) to determine which parent gets the exemption. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin[at]sprintmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Bill Lentz wrote:
I guess my thinking is that no one has custody of a 21 year> > My ex wife and I were divorced prior to 2002. We have two > > children. The oldest is 22 and still in school. She lives > > at school year round, staying at my ex wife's house if she > > is in town for a weekend, or a school break (she stays at > > school during the summer.) > > > My state law excludes children over 18 from being awarded or > > assigned custody in a divorce. In fact the divorce decree > > specifically stated that no custody was being awarded in the > > case of my daughter and the right to claim her as an > > exemption would be governed by applicable federal law. > > > I claimed my daughter in 2002 because I provided more than > > half of her support. > > > I've just learned that me ex wife also claimed her - I > > don't know the basis for her claim. > I haven't checked the code or regulations, but the > instructions state that "custody" is defined as "physical > custody" in the absence of a state custody order. It > appears your ex-wife gets the exemption. old who has, for all intents and purposes, moved out on her own. Bill << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > Bill Lentz wrote:
The code and regs refer to a child who is in custody of the> > My ex wife and I were divorced prior to 2002. We have two > > children. The oldest is 22 and still in school. She lives > > at school year round, staying at my ex wife's house if she > > is in town for a weekend, or a school break (she stays at > > school during the summer.) > > > My state law excludes children over 18 from being awarded or > > assigned custody in a divorce. In fact the divorce decree > > specifically stated that no custody was being awarded in the > > case of my daughter and the right to claim her as an > > exemption would be governed by applicable federal law. > > > I claimed my daughter in 2002 because I provided more than > > half of her support. > > > I've just learned that me ex wife also claimed her - I > > don't know the basis for her claim. > I haven't checked the code or regulations, but the > instructions state that "custody" is defined as "physical > custody" in the absence of a state custody order. It > appears your ex-wife gets the exemption. parent for purposes of the special rule for divorced or separated parents. As I have stated in other posts, I don't believe an emancipated child (she is age 22) is in custody of either parent. As such, in this instance, the parent who provided more than half of the total support would get the exemption. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Bill Lentz wrote: - quote - > My ex wife and I were divorced prior to 2002. We have two
I haven't checked the code or regulations, but the> children. The oldest is 22 and still in school. She lives > at school year round, staying at my ex wife's house if she > is in town for a weekend, or a school break (she stays at > school during the summer.) > My state law excludes children over 18 from being awarded or > assigned custody in a divorce. In fact the divorce decree > specifically stated that no custody was being awarded in the > case of my daughter and the right to claim her as an > exemption would be governed by applicable federal law. > I claimed my daughter in 2002 because I provided more than > half of her support. > I've just learned that me ex wife also claimed her - I > don't know the basis for her claim. instructions state that "custody" is defined as "physical custody" in the absence of a state custody order. It appears your ex-wife gets the exemption. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| My ex wife and I were divorced prior to 2002. We have two children. The oldest is 22 and still in school. She lives at school year round, staying at my ex wife's house if she is in town for a weekend, or a school break (she stays at school during the summer.) My state law excludes children over 18 from being awarded or assigned custody in a divorce. In fact the divorce decree specifically stated that no custody was being awarded in the case of my daughter and the right to claim her as an exemption would be governed by applicable federal law. I claimed my daughter in 2002 because I provided more than half of her support. I've just learned that me ex wife also claimed her - I don't know the basis for her claim. First, is my interpretation correct, (that I claim her because there is no custody and I provided more than half the support) and second, what communication can I/we expect from the IRS on this? Thanks Bill << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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