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| The IRS still "truncates" - or drops off the cents - on CP 2000 letters. I always thought it was nice of them. Also saves money and time. Nan, EA in LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > > Authority: 26 USC 6102(a)(1) "The fractional part of a
The IRP printouts used for audit files always truncated the> > > dollar shall be disregarded." > > > > > (a)(2) allows for the rounding to the nearest dollar where > > > 0.50+ adds 1 dollar. > > > > > This means that a taxpayer may TRUNCATE and need not round. > > Well thanks for that nugget. I didn't know that. > > > But tell me this, why does IRS round downwards on CPC 2000 > > notices? > Well, are they rounding downwards or are they truncating? amounts (at least they still did when I left in 1994). << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > > > > I heard that if you make less than 400 dollars at one
Well THANK you, Drew. For that was always my understanding> > > > > particular job that you don't have to file that with your > > > > > taxes is this right or wrong??? > > > > Completely incorrect. > > > > > > > ALL income is taxable, or at least subject to tax for the > > > > year. Even if an interest income statement is 50 cents, that > > > > rounds up to a dollar and is reportable. However.... if 49 > > > > cents or below, do not report; instead, enjoy! > > > Actually, if 99 cents and below, do not report. > > > > > Authority: 26 USC 6102(a)(1) "The fractional part of a > > > dollar shall be disregarded." > > > > > (a)(2) allows for the rounding to the nearest dollar where > > > 0.50+ adds 1 dollar. > > > > > This means that a taxpayer may TRUNCATE and need not round. > > Well thanks for that nugget. I didn't know that. > > > But tell me this, why does IRS round downwards on CPC 2000 > > notices? > 6102 actually gives the IRS discretion to require rounding > up or truncating. The option is not provided to the > taxpayer except if the IRS allows. The regulation > 301.6102-1 states in part: > To the extent permitted by any internal revenue form or > instructions prescribed for use with respect to any internal > revenue return, declaration, statement, other document, or > supporting schedules, any amount required to be reported on > such form shall be entered at the nearest whole dollar > amount > --- end quoted text > Section 6102, in part says: > (a) Amounts Shown On Internal Revenue Forms > The **Secretary** is authorized to provide with respect to > any amount required to be shown on a form prescribed for any > internal revenue return, statement, or other document, that > if such amount of such item is other than a whole-dollar > amount, either-- > (1) the fractional part of a dollar shall be disregarded; or > (2) the fractional part of a dollar shall be disregarded > unless it amounts to one-half dollar or more, in which case > the amount (determined without regard to the fractional part > of a dollar) shall be increased by $1. of how to do it, i.e. rounding either up or down with break point at 49 cents. Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > > > I heard that if you make less than 400 dollars at one
6102 actually gives the IRS discretion to require rounding> > > > particular job that you don't have to file that with your > > > > taxes is this right or wrong??? > > > Completely incorrect. > > > > > ALL income is taxable, or at least subject to tax for the > > > year. Even if an interest income statement is 50 cents, that > > > rounds up to a dollar and is reportable. However.... if 49 > > > cents or below, do not report; instead, enjoy! > > Actually, if 99 cents and below, do not report. > > > Authority: 26 USC 6102(a)(1) "The fractional part of a > > dollar shall be disregarded." > > > (a)(2) allows for the rounding to the nearest dollar where > > 0.50+ adds 1 dollar. > > > This means that a taxpayer may TRUNCATE and need not round. > Well thanks for that nugget. I didn't know that. > But tell me this, why does IRS round downwards on CPC 2000 > notices? up or truncating. The option is not provided to the taxpayer except if the IRS allows. The regulation 301.6102-1 states in part: To the extent permitted by any internal revenue form or instructions prescribed for use with respect to any internal revenue return, declaration, statement, other document, or supporting schedules, any amount required to be reported on such form shall be entered at the nearest whole dollar amount --- end quoted text Section 6102, in part says: (a) Amounts Shown On Internal Revenue Forms The **Secretary** is authorized to provide with respect to any amount required to be shown on a form prescribed for any internal revenue return, statement, or other document, that if such amount of such item is other than a whole-dollar amount, either-- (1) the fractional part of a dollar shall be disregarded; or (2) the fractional part of a dollar shall be disregarded unless it amounts to one-half dollar or more, in which case the amount (determined without regard to the fractional part of a dollar) shall be increased by $1. --- end quoted text Emphasis added. Drew Edmundson, CPA (NC) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > Authority: 26 USC 6102(a)(1) "The fractional part of a
Well, are they rounding downwards or are they truncating?> > dollar shall be disregarded." > > > (a)(2) allows for the rounding to the nearest dollar where > > 0.50+ adds 1 dollar. > > > This means that a taxpayer may TRUNCATE and need not round. > Well thanks for that nugget. I didn't know that. > But tell me this, why does IRS round downwards on CPC 2000 > notices? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > > I heard that if you make less than 400 dollars at one
Well thanks for that nugget. I didn't know that.> > > particular job that you don't have to file that with your > > > taxes is this right or wrong??? > > Completely incorrect. > > > ALL income is taxable, or at least subject to tax for the > > year. Even if an interest income statement is 50 cents, that > > rounds up to a dollar and is reportable. However.... if 49 > > cents or below, do not report; instead, enjoy! > Actually, if 99 cents and below, do not report. > Authority: 26 USC 6102(a)(1) "The fractional part of a > dollar shall be disregarded." > (a)(2) allows for the rounding to the nearest dollar where > 0.50+ adds 1 dollar. > This means that a taxpayer may TRUNCATE and need not round. But tell me this, why does IRS round downwards on CPC 2000 notices? Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Harlan Lunsford wrote: - quote - > Angie Griffin wrote:
Actually, if 99 cents and below, do not report.> > I heard that if you make less than 400 dollars at one > > particular job that you don't have to file that with your > > taxes is this right or wrong??? > Completely incorrect. > ALL income is taxable, or at least subject to tax for the > year. Even if an interest income statement is 50 cents, that > rounds up to a dollar and is reportable. However.... if 49 > cents or below, do not report; instead, enjoy! Authority: 26 USC 6102(a)(1) "The fractional part of a dollar shall be disregarded." (a)(2) allows for the rounding to the nearest dollar where 0.50+ adds 1 dollar. This means that a taxpayer may TRUNCATE and need not round. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Angie Griffin <angelwings3110[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > I heard that if you make less than 400 dollars at one
Nope. All income is reportable unless excludable by law.> particular job that you don't have to file that with your > taxes is this right or wrong??? What you might have heard is if your total net self employment income, the amount entered on Form 1040 Line 12, is not more than $400 (the actual amount is 433) then you do not calculate or pay self employment tax or file Schedule SE. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Angie Griffin wrote: - quote - > I heard that if you make less than 400 dollars at one
Your requirement to file is based on your age, filing status> particular job that you don't have to file that with your > taxes is this right or wrong??? and gross income (GI). E.g., a single person under age 65 has to file if GI is at least $7800. In addition, for individuals who are self-employed, the filing threshold is much lower. A self-employed individual has to file if self-employment net earnings is at least $400. There is also another rule for individuals who are claimed as someone else's dependent and another rule for someone who receives church income. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Angie Griffin wrote: - quote - > I heard that if you make less than 400 dollars at one
I can see where this came from: If you make less than $433> particular job that you don't have to file that with your > taxes is this right or wrong??? net income otherwise subject to self-employment taxes, you don't have to pay THOSE taxes. You still have to report the income for income tax purposes. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Angie Griffin wrote: - quote - > I heard that if you make less than 400 dollars at one
Completely incorrect.> particular job that you don't have to file that with your > taxes is this right or wrong??? ALL income is taxable, or at least subject to tax for the year. Even if an interest income statement is 50 cents, that rounds up to a dollar and is reportable. However.... if 49 cents or below, do not report; instead, enjoy! Cheer$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I heard that if you make less than 400 dollars at one
Wrong!> particular job that you don't have to file that with your > taxes is this right or wrong??? All freely provided advice guarantee correct or double your money back Frank S. Duke, Jr. CPA Cincinnati, OH USA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| angelwings3110[at]aol.com (Angie Griffin) writes: - quote - > I heard that if you make less than 400 dollars at one
Oh, I don't doubt that you heard it, but it's wrong. Every> particular job that you don't have to file that with your > taxes is this right or wrong??? dollar must be reported. Phil Marti Topeka, KS << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I heard that if you make less than 400 dollars at one particular job that you don't have to file that with your taxes is this right or wrong??? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |